KTs in LJ

You can bet turn like $60 but check turn is fine too, i think i prefer check very marginally.

River check call anything up to pot sized bet.

I like it as played. I check/call the river.

3way oop vs one I check the flop most of times (only bet with fish), I prefer to have a strong value range here, like TPTK+

Not sure about turn, imo a check looks a lot like what it is Tx/JJ which goes for check/call, but hard to play most rivers if you bet and get called, so I also prefer checking over betting.

After he check behind on turn he most likely has sd value, so I would b/f river, I don't think he will value bet many worse combos than yours if you check, and he shouldn't have many highcards.

Would go for $66 b/f in hope that he hero calls worse Tx or pp's, but as I said in the beginning I prefer checking the flop

never bet this flop 3 ways. esp not vs someone who likes to stab.

as played check river and see what happens.

If we know V likes to stab when action checks to him, I think it's fine to check the flop and let him take the betting lead. We can always check-raise if he bets small, or look to make our play on the turn.

Turn check seems okay, for the same reasons - let V stab. The only problem is now he might stab with a hand that beats ours, or he might check back with his air and his draws, suspecting we might be planning to check raise.

As played, seems like the river is going to have to be a check-call.

FWIW, I like the properties of our hand for taking a check-call line starting on the flop - we unblock his flush draws, and block KQ and AT.

I would not be sitting this deep in this seat just a couple to the right of a good lag pro. I'd get across the table from him or across the room from him.

With this in mind, I think preflop is kinda tough. I never want to build a big pot OOP to this guy, so if I felt I must play this hand then I'd open limp to encourage others to get into a small pot. But if he's not going to let me do that then I'd just fold. I know where my money is made, and playing bloated pots with marginal hands OOP against good lag pros ain't it.

I'm either/or on the flop. Our hand does need some protection and there are worse hands to charge. But we also don't want to get blown off getting to showdown. With this guy behind who could be stabby I'd lean to a check.

Fine with turn check for same reason.

Overall, a crapload of draws busted. Plus 99/etc. isn't necessarily going to call a bet with 2 overs on board. Plus we really want to make sure we get to showdown and would hate facing a raise. So I'd lean to a check/call.

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Hero bets 60 and gets snapped off by AQ with Ad

I think that's probably fine. My thoughts would be block bet/ fold, maybe block bet call, or check call would all be pretty close based on villain description. Like 25-33% pot. Your bet size is also probably pretty close to the same EV.

Betting at all, let alone at that sizing, means you only get called by hands that beat you or get bluff-raised and maybe fold the best hand. I am check-calling always (or I guess maybe check-folding, but always starting with a check) as played.

As far as the people saying to check the flop, remember this is 3 ways and OP did not provide much about the BB but I think the flop is too early to start tailoring our play to the button when we could potentially get value from the other person in the hand.

I find people call with a ten or pocket pair if it looks like hero’s line is FOS which it does. Hero can’t bet the turn but finds a big value bet on the river?

I agree with Mlark that your line is probably fine, not significantly better or worse than check-calling river.

Your line is repping either 6x (unlikely when we open pre), Tx (most likely), and missed diamonds. We can't know that V has the Ad or Qx when he calls flop and checks back turn. He could conceivably look us up with worse Tx, maybe a lower PP (77-99), or even ace-high if he thinks we're FOS.

Good LAGs will sometimes pot control and check back turn with showdown value to induce OOP bluffs or worse hands to stab on the river, which is why I think I'd prefer to check-evaluate rather than bet with KT.

If we check, a good LAG will bet his worse Tx (at least sometimes), Qx, and a lot of his missed draws. If he bets small, it's an easy call. If he bets big, it sucks, but we could mix in some check-raises as a bluff, knowing our Tx isn't good, but blocking hands like QT and KQ, and knowing V isn't likely to have called the flop with much 6x.

It isn't entirely unbelievable that we'd have some 6x combos with some BD draws that bet flop, checked turn, and go for the check-raise on the river against an aggro opponent. If I was V, and you x/r'd here, I'd snap fold AQ, but I'd snap-call a $60 bet.

I agree.

On this hand in particular, it's sort of hard to think of hands hero (generically) would check without showdown value.

Q is a scare card for v, and brings in lots of gut shots. Who among us is checking AJ, AK or 89 or a FD on this turn?

I still don't mind your line but it's interesting to think about. I suppose, occasionally CR some good draws and low sets, especially against Mr. Stabby. I think this also sets up some cool river scenarios, even when it goes check/check.

I think we can still get called by worse hands after turn goes check, check. Yeah there are a few queens in villain's range, like the one he has. But generally there aren't a ton. We can still get called by a non-believing T or even worse.

If you check, v might even bet larger like 80 or 90 and you might consider calling hoping for a bricked draw, in which case you save money by betting 60. I would still argue for betting smaller, like 25%-33%. To maximize getting called by worse hands. We are fairly likely to get looked up by weaker Tx as well as 77-99.

You bring up a valid point that by block betting, we can get bluff raised. But in reality, this just doesn't happen that much. Busted draws chicken out and fold. 77-99 or T9 don't suddenly decide to turn themselves into a bluff that often. And if V is the type of player who can run that bluff, great, then we can find calls. If not then we can.

There are tons of situations where block betting river OPP with hands worse than top pair is worth it, and this is one of them.

You are forgetting something that I think is important: the river paired the 6. If Villain looked us up on the flop with 6x, we’re beat now, and a raise on the river reps a 6 fairly well. Against a LAG in particular, this means we don’t really want to face a raise.

He likely either has a really good hand like. a set he's slow rolled or a missed draw. You betting out doesn't help yourself in either. You bet, he raises the hands that you beat. You bet and he doesn't bluff.

I'd check. Call if he bets.

i think you played it fine. This is an odd result.

i far prefer a bet on flop to a check. You take control of the pot, protect your hand, and are less prone to being outplayed.

it's a mystery why alleged LAG does not 3 bet pre and does bet turn. i mean wow.

IMO you are mostly ahead on the river so a small bet on the river is good.

Your line seems okay…probably KT is the worst hand to V-bet on river since you still beat the bulk of Tx hands, while JT is losing to a lot more combos. some (most?) players won’t bet a Tx for value on the river but will call a bet with Tx, and Tx is probably the bulk of his range on the river … so I would prefer river bet to a check/call line. Check/folding seems too tight to me…we’d need a hell of a read that V never had bluffs or value bets worse in order to x/fold river.

People confused about preflop?
Go check any solver BTN vs. LJ (LJ=UTG 6max) open, BTN calls AQo a _lot_. The only configurations I can see where it's even over 50% are rake specific charts, and it's only just over 50%.

Turn check is also (GTOwiz) solver fine assuming it was only HU and H bet 33% on flop (there's no 50% pot bet on flop from H, even HU, 85% check and 15% bet 33% pot mixed as only a solver can).
FWIW solver likes 33% pot on river with TT/ATs/KTs/T8s/etc and then AQ raises (although AQ also raises when H bets the other size solver uses as H of 74% pot).

feels fine, but agree probably better to go smaller on river or check/call

if villain is the capable player you believe him to be then he definitely has respect for you to not 3! pre nor repopping river but opting to flat and close the action both times

LAG didn't 3b pre with AQ? That seems unusual. Particularly with you in MP.