Am I supposed to bluff raise here?
2/3 NL. UTG is a black middle aged guy who can be found in his car getting stoned most of the time. He is very loose with limps. He does open raise a good bit but hasn't shown down many hands. He seems somewhat straight forward post. He has shown a couple strong hands that he bet all the way. He has raise/folded pre and bet/folded pre several times. I have not seen him run a bluff. The BB is new to the table but seems like he knows what he is doing. He is a mid 30's WG.
We are all have around 300 stacks.
UTG open limps, I am next with JdJc and raise to 15, folded to the BB who raises to 45, UTG calls and I call.
(135 in pot) AdKc3s...It gets checked around
(135 in pot) AdKc3s2c...It gets checked around. Am I supposed to bet here?
(135 in pot) AdKc3s2c7h...It's checked to UTG who bets 25. If this was HU I would call( Maybe bluff raise?). With the BB still in the hand should I turn my hand into a raise targeting QQ's or maybe a K? Do people ever get to the river with a weak Ace and fold to a raise? My image should be tight. Would a studied player sniff out my bluff? It's not like it's a scary river. I would just be banking on the hopes they would think I slow played a monster or maybe had 77's.
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Against these Vs I would like to go about 55 on the turn so you can jam $200 on the river. You're practically never going to see someone slowplaying AK+ or even AQ vs 2 people for 2 streets when straight and flush draws show up. This line wouldn't be outrageous on your part. You could certainly check AQ on the flop, then go for value once everyone slows down. You could have 45s, slowplayed AK, sets.
AP, it is a pretty weird spot. Maybe UTG is just taking a cheap stab that only has to work occasionally, but I kind of think you'll see a lot of Ax suited and KQ type hands. For you to raise on the river will look exactly like you are trying to bluff this guy in response to his tiny bet and all the checking. Still, BB cannot call you with QQ type stuff. You can either go like 80, as if you are trying to squeeze value from Ax suited, or jam and say you have 77 or something, and in live poker, that is usually the case. You could also just fold and let the other guy play sherrif. It depends on your read on UTG.
if you do it has to be big, at least 1.5x overbet. otherwise youll get snapped.
Tough spot. I was thinking bet the turn. But after hero checks back the flop, he’s capped his range, and a hero turn bet looks like a weak ace or Kx. I think hero gets called too much with his capped range to risk a big bluff on the river brick.
I’m calling the small river bet because you’re getting 6:1, and UTG might be spazzing with 88-TT. BB might fold his QQ or Kx.
2/3 NL. UTG is a black middle aged guy who can be found in his car getting stoned most of the time. He is very loose with limps. He does open raise a good bit but hasn't shown down many hands. He seems somewhat straight forward post. He has shown a couple strong hands that he bet all the way. He has raise/folded pre and bet/folded pre several times. I have not seen him run a bluff. The BB is new to the table but seems like he knows what he is doing. He is a mid 30's WG.
We are all have around 3
It's 1/3. People love calling bets with A anything. I'd be less worried about something sniffing out a bluff. I'd be more worried about Ax who won't bet but who will call.
A pot sized raise is over 200, you might need to go bigger to fold out an ace.
If $300 is your normal BI, strongly consider BIing for much less if you are ~noobish to NL, imo.
I just limp in.
Facing the enticing 3bet sizing plus the dead money of the limp/coldcaller (um, WTF?) puts us in a really weird spot. What's our image? How 3betty is the BB? Could UTG be tarping a monster? The answer to these questions could lean us to a bunch of different options. I'm usually not flatting for huge 15% of stacks preflop, mostly shoving or folding in these spots (unless tarping myself), unless I think BB has a monster in which case we're getting ~11.5+:1 to setmine in position and could perhaps get to showdown UI and win postflop. So it depends, but flatting here might be ok.
I'm also checking back the flop as we could easily be getting tarped by a monster.
Not as likely that we're still being tarped by a monster on the turn due to the board getting more drawy and tarpers being scared of it checking thru again. I wouldn't hate a bet here as the only bet I put into the pot to protect against slim draws / protect against some weirdo Qx. But checking to get to showdown is also ok.
For this really good price I don't think we have to turn our hand into a bluff and can just call. We don't have to be up against a block betting smaller pair all that often to be profitable for this price. Yeah, I guess a raise might knock out QQ behind us (which could work although we're really only repping 77), but that is targeting like pretty much one hand, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
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2/3 NL. UTG is a black middle aged guy who can be found in his car getting stoned most of the time. He is very loose with limps. He does open raise a good bit but hasn't shown down many hands. He seems somewhat straight forward post. He has shown a couple strong hands that he bet all the way. He has raise/folded pre and bet/folded pre several times. I have not seen him run a bluff. The BB is new to the table but seems like he knows what he is doing. He is a mid 30's WG.
We are all have around 3
I probably would have bet the turn after action gets checked through on the flop and checked to us again. Few low stakes players are going to check twice with Ax here.
Wouldn't need to be a big bet. We're targeting TT and worse PP's. I'd probably just bet $45.
On the river, the $25 bet looks pretty fishy, but if this V is just playing ABC with no bluffs, I probably just call. There's some small chance he slid in here with some worse Ax that is just never folding to a raise, unless we go absurdly huge.
I wouldn't be shocked to see V roll over A7 or 77.
