Did I crash my boat?

Did I crash my boat?

2/5 w/ sporadic straddles, this pot is straddled. $2500 eff. V is young and, based on a few hours, much better than a typical 2/5 player. At the very least, ballsier and more creative. Cold 4! bluffs and stuff like that.

8 handed. V opens $30 UTG +1.

Hero calls Js9s in the $5 blind. I had some reasons for doing this, but it's still probably a fold, even with my reasons.

Flop Jh9h9c.

Check/Check.

Turn: Jh9h9sAs

I bet $30. He makes it $120. I call.

River Jh9h9sAc7h. Pot about 300.

I check. He bets $225. I make it $625. He goes all in. If you fold, what is the worst hand you call with? If you call, what is the best hand you'd fold?

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06 December 2024 at 08:03 AM
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i am not c betting a 99J board 100% of the time, i don't see why we can rule that out for the villain here


by rickroll k

i am not c betting a 99J board 100% of the time, i don't see why we can rule that out for the villain here

You are surely betting a good % of the time?
if you don't c bet with an overpair on a drawy board, when are you cbetting????


I think it’s a fold pre and a fold on the river. Not the toughest fold on the river…A9 is probably also a fold because you lose to the same 4 combos of JJ/AA… and V never has A9 anyway after flop check, so the A9>J9 point is moot.

On turn, the card is very good for Vs range and the best way to build a pot is to go for the x/raise. I would check here by default.


by LOJAKzzz k

You are surely betting a good % of the time?
if you don't c bet with an overpair on a drawy board, when are you cbetting????

A lot of players who try to balance will check the more invulnerable AA on this board and v-bet QQ/KK.


by ChaosInEquilibrium k

A lot of players who try to balance will check the more invulnerable AA on this board and v-bet QQ/KK.

This. Of course he had aces.


by rickroll k

i am not c betting a 99J board 100% of the time, i don't see why we can rule that out for the villain here

Maybe you're not range betting this flop, HU and IP against the BB 100%, but surely an aggro opponent is going to be c-betting close to 100%, if not betting range, and won't be checking back AA, JJ, or 9x on such a wet and dynamic board.


by ChaosInEquilibrium k

I think it’s a fold pre and a fold on the river. Not the toughest fold on the river…A9 is probably also a fold because you lose to the same 4 combos of JJ/AA… and V never has A9 anyway after flop check, so the A9>J9 point is moot.

On turn, the card is very good for Vs range and the best way to build a pot is to go for the x/raise. I would check here by default.

Might not be tough for you! But certainly would be hecka tough for me, and kudos to OP for finding it.

And CIE, haven't seen you in a while (conceivable I've just not noticed); are you back? Your comments are among some of the best, so hope you stick around.


by illiterat k

For the lolz, I looked at GTOwiz ...


200bb 6max cash

UTG open
BB call (J9s is almost pure call, with some 3bet)

Flop:
BB basically pure check
UTG bets 75% of range, and JJ/A9s are 98% bet. T8s bets slightly more often than AA with Th8h betting even more often than AsAd (most often bet AA combo).


Turn:
BB stills checks 75%, incl. Js9s@63% and Jd9d@70%
...when BB bets solver likes 125% of pot (15% of range and almost all of J9s), and 33% of pot (because ofc).

When BB bets 33%
UTG prefers raising K9s/Q9s/T9s/

by OmahaDonk k

This. Of course he had aces.

That

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