Black Hold'em - is Blackjack factor acceptable in poker?

Black Hold'em - is Blackjack factor acceptable in poker?

I'm posting a poll to see if you guys are ready to accept elements of Blackjack game in a poker variant (in general).

This new variant "Black Hold'em" will be analyzed deeply only if the poll results give any hope. As for now, the game itself seems to be very promising:


Please vote, thanks 😀

) 1 View 1
24 November 2024 at 08:58 AM
Reply...

4 Replies



I've been playing a lot of poker lately and I'm quite strongly convinced that the core of NLHE are the odds percentages - which are very diverse and never boring. I think that even if part of the original game is replaced with Blackjack, it will be the "%" that is the key thing. And since the BJ bust probability is also very diverse, this will most likely work fine, too. Here, it's combined with the poker hand strength and these two seem to create a strong combo.

I'm currently quite fascinated with what this new variant offers and it's not just a way of advertising my game, I really mean it. I recently made a big progress with the tournaments I play - this was probably what helped me find these rules. My poker design requirements raised significantly since I reached a proper skill level and now I'm satisfied with the results.

I had to make the use of the "2 cards" similarity between NLHE and Blackjack, there was just no other way.


The red rectangle with "Blackjack bust probability" data is actually not as useful as I previously thought. It's much easier to get an Ace as the phantom card than getting an Ace in Blackjack (as a 3rd card). The method of getting a 3rd card in "Black Hold'em" is different, that's all. Although I still feel being inspired by this data when creating the game.

My game has different percentages, so you don't need to worry when having for example KK - you will bust much less often than you would in BJ. I'm not able to post the correct numbers, because it surpasses my math skills.

But everything still seems to be perfectly playable. Even the hand rankings seem to be correct, because Joker can play as any card, it's just for the player's comfort that it plays as the strongest possible card.

You can just ignore the red rectangle unless you're interested in Blackjack 😀 Sorry for putting some useless data in the graphic.


by ITryDeuces k

I've been playing a lot of poker lately and I'm quite strongly convinced that the core of NLHE are the odds percentages - which are very diverse and never boring. I think that even if part of the original game is replaced with Blackjack, it will be the "%" that is the key thing. And since the BJ bust probability is also very diverse, this will most likely work fine, too. Here, it's combined with the poker hand strength and these two seem to create a strong combo.

I'm currently quite fascinated wi

If we have learned anything over the last 15 years in poker it's that the core of NLHE is MUCH more than the odds percentages. Poker is a complex system which is perceived and digested by each individual differently which is why people use different strategies for different opponents. I know this because if you configure the solver to only put your opponent on a certain range of hands it will start doing all kinds of crazy **** to try and exploit them

Your system is intriguing but I believe it presents some illusory undertones... (e.g. PHANTOM cards, use of Joker card, etc.). I hope you shift your work to more of a white magic complexion.


by Stumeister k

Your system is intriguing but I believe it presents some illusory undertones... (e.g. PHANTOM cards, use of Joker card, etc.). I hope you shift your work to more of a white magic complexion.

Ok, I'll see what I can do. I've just bought a couple of new decks from Modiano - maybe this will help.

Still not giving up, hahah 😀

Reply...