How should SB adapt its 3b range Vs wider than GTO callers?
AFAICT there are two competing schools of thought on this.
I always thought extend the range amap because extra junk means extra fold equity post. But I can’t say if that makes up for all the times we get called and pwned.
Alternatively we tighten up and play more linear than gto? This feels instinctively wrong to me vs weaker players but I can see the logic pre and post.
But which strategy is ‘correct’? Assuming BU opens 2.5x and the pool overcalls twice as wide as GTO.
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Without taking into account any post flop edges and what not, then the 3B frequency would typically decrease.
Righto. But if we do have edge... is that quantifiable at all? How bad does our opponent need to be before SB can be profitably unleashed?
Let’s say pool data has everyone calling the cbet about correctly (with that extra wide range), but then big-time overfolding on the turn, reflecting all the air. Where is the inflection point where all that extra, slightly inflated value from our bluffs is surpassed by being more linear pre? If they're dramatically overfolding a node shouldn't we be max increasing pressure our end?
Or is it too abstract to quantify tit for tat?
Righto. But if we do have edge... is that quantifiable at all? How bad does our opponent need to be before SB can be profitably unleashed?
Let’s say pool data has everyone calling the cbet about correctly (with that extra wide range), but then big-time overfolding on the turn, reflecting all the air. Where is the inflection point where all that extra, slightly inflated value from our bluffs is surpassed by being more linear pre? If they're dramatically overfolding a node shouldn't we b
I mean you're mostly just guessing what your edge is, but you can input those values for preflop solvers and see how much it changes things (it's a lot and somewhat unreasonable in my opinion).
I think the main adjustments to make are going to be with fringe hands that are already ~0EV in theory. You either full 3-bet or full remove those hands based on the preflop tendencies of your opponent combined with whatever perceived postflop edge you might have.
I will add that as a general statement populations tend to defend well vs. c-bets on turns/rivers in aggregate rather than overfold for them being IP in 3BP, so I think any edges you might gain by going slightly wider are going to trend very close to 0EV in aggregate. Obviously, this is a general statement, but I hope you understand.
I do. thank you!
Bigger factor will be how much you are facing a 4bet.
If he calls super wide trash hands like KTo then your KQ/KJ will go a bit up in EV, but hands like 76s go down. Biggest winners ofc would be hands like AA KK because insted of winning 2.5bb form KJo now you win much more.
You can open up cold calling range if BB wont sqz a ton or he is a fish.
