What are the top 10 starting hands in poker?

What are the top 10 starting hands in poker?

Obviously AA and KK are the top 2 hands. But when you talk about calling all ins or just reshoving, im somewhat confused at what the top 10 hands are.
This is what i thought i was

1. AA
2. KK
3. QQ
4. AKs
5. AKo
6. JJ
7. AQs
8. 1010
9. AQo
10. 99

Would these be the top 10 hands to call all ins with? The thing is i saw this list somewhere where it was like this. But then when i go through top 10 cash game hands... you see hands like AQs ranked higher than AKo... which makes no sense. Then i seen some articles where they have the top 10 hands in holdem... they actually have KJs as a top 10 hand. Whats confusing is Phil Hellmuth mentions the top 10 hands in holdem are AA, KK, QQ, AKs, JJ, 10s, 9s, 8s, AQs, 7s. Im confused at this b/c why would he not have AKo ranked as a top 10 hand and have AQs there?

Are these top 10 hand rankings different for sng, tournamnet and cash game which is why its like this? If so, is there a list that shows what the top starting hands are for tournaments, cash games and calling all ins for sng/tournaments?

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11 November 2013 at 06:29 AM
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by Babarberousse k

You don't call an all-in only by looking at your hand strength. You have to look at the whole preflop action, your SPR, and the ICM if you are playing in a tournament.

Thus, I'm not saying AKs is better than QQ. If I have 10bb then I'm often happier to shove with QQ than AKs because I'm more likely to get called by a hand I crush. A big strength of AKs is that you can put a lot of pressure preflop on the others preflop because you will often have at least a flip.

So let me give you an example of why how far away you are from money is so important in tourneys:

I flopped AA in a $100 + $10 buyin deep stack tourney and was few out of money (Maybe 10?) ... There were so many add-ons and rebuys that even bottom cash was double up or close enough ... It was a big tourney.

Slugged for hours to get enough chips to at least cash and hopefully double up and more lol ... Top prize was thousands ... Was in comfortable position to at least min cash or more just by folding till money.

So I have these beautiful Aces in early pos (just after BB) ... so do I shove ... no, I raise enough for everyone to fold except ... except for BB who shoves for more than 80% of my stack. So how is my thinking: he cannot have a better hand, I have position on BB that now doesn't matter ... If I have 100% or more chips (BB stack + SB + ante) I'm sailing into maybe close to Final Table and real money. If I fold I have plenty to cash and possibly more.

Now, if I call and lose, I have about 20% left which is not much 10 out of money (cause that can take a long time) but maybe sufficient ...

What do stats and best hand ranking say? (Most those rankings are only for mild reference and garbage otherwise ... semi decent starting point but ... ) Call fool lol ... 😀

But, I'm thinking, what I need to be sure is more info ... What is this guy in BB likely to shove with? Tight player, even better, cause I'm most likely against AK, KK, QQ and rarely JJ ... he is tight so I dominate I think (BTW 65 suited in different suit than the Aces is the best hand vs AA with 23.1% w/t chance).

So he is tight, stats say call, equity says call, having some chips behind says call, expected value and future expected value all day call. Hand strength table especially says: CALL!!!!!! Call now it says lol ....

ALL WRONG!!!!!!!

I of course call ... he shows KT suited ... One to the his suit cards flops so he has runner runner flush possibly but I hold one of the aces to the suit so his outs to runner runner flush drop to 8. I'm happy I think I'm good ... turn is not his suit so inconsequential I think, so even more happy so the river comes: the bane of my existence that river: by now 10 or so of my Aces lost on the river ... impossible for it to be 11 in a row right? WRONG!!!!

River comes and I loose ... I'm thinking how is this even possible on a board textured like this? He didn't have two pair what the heck ... This is a ridiculous mistake call support, right. Wrong again ...

The guy spikes the only possible river card to give him the win with an inside str to the ten ... and he did runner runner it ...

My remaining stack is enough I think but I'm crippled. One before the money I'm on fumes and effectively all in with AQ and a flopped straight. Do I cash?

NO!!! The guy that puts me allin with what I think is a nut straight shows 74 unsuited (at that) and runner runners a flush and me out of tourney and 1 out of money!

I bubble and the field quickly, in minutes really after hours of slug fest, goes through many blind levels. This means that I, without the mistake like calling with those aces, would have laddered up to real money ...

So all the indicators say call with AA and stats overtime say call as far as expected future earnings is concerned but in my case they were all wrong! Fold was correct! Because tournament poker is a much deeper intellectual game than just statistics or gameplay indicators. When money gets big, folding aces is sometimes surprisingly correct play ...

I would have had no problem making it into money with the stack I had before the Aces call. It was big enough to really do some damage. But the 20% stack, maybe 10xBB, was only good enough for fold or shove.

This decision cost me $110 and possibly 30k or so top prize, but definitely a grand, considering how far I would have gotten just by sitting out and folding.

Loses like that add up if you play enough and can be a difference between being a winning or a losing player! Winning top prize 🏆🏆🏆 dosen't mean crap if you never cash because of chasing it! The money is how we keep the score in this sport ...

May all your cards be live and your pots be Monster!
(Hope this post wasn't too long)


Sorry, didn't realize this post thread is more than 10 years old. Anyways, hope that my post doesn't sound or read as if I was a Poker idiot ... Maybe it will help someone with right decision close to the bubble.

After all, in Hold'em Poker pocket rockets (AAs) are just two cards and can lose to any other two cards, even loosely goosy 72o. 😀

May all your cards be live and your posts be Monster!


Sorry, didn't realize this post thread is more than 10 years old. Anyways, hope that my post doesn't sound or read as if I was a Poker idiot ... Maybe it will help someone with right decision close to the bubble.

After all, in Hold'em Poker pocket rockets (AAs) are just two cards and can lose to any other two cards, even loosely goosy 72o. 😀

May all your cards be live and your posts be Monster!


Tom

You are wrong. You are simply being results oriented. Calling an all in pre flop in a normal tournament is never incorrect. Yes you can lose, as you found out. So what? Poker is about taking risks when the reward is appropriate for the risk. Your spot isnÂ’t even close to being a correct fold. Sure, maybe had you folded you might have mincashed but agains so what? The real money in a tournament comes from running deep. You wonÂ’t run deep very often by folding when you have a good opportunity to chip up.

Calling when you had AA certainly increased your $EV in that tournament. Folding would not have. IÂ’m sorry it didnÂ’t work out in this instance, but that is the way it goes sometimes. Luck is a part of poker, especially tournament poker. Playing like a nit because you are afraid you might get unlucky is not a recipe for success.

Now in fairness, there is a case where you would be correct in your assessment. If you are in a satellite tournament where everyone who cashes gets a seat in the main, then there are spots where folding AA PF can indeed be correct. For example, 6-handed, 5 seats paid, you have 2nd biggest stack. Two stacks less than 5BB. Chip leader shoves; you have AA. You should fold in that case. The chips you potentially gain are practically worthless - you have a very good chance of winning the seat without them.


by Tom66 k

Sorry, didn't realize this post thread is more than 10 years old. Anyways, hope that my post doesn't sound or read as if I was a Poker idiot ... Maybe it will help someone with right decision close to the bubble.

After all, in Hold'em Poker pocket rockets (AAs) are just two cards and can lose to any other two cards, even loosely goosy 72o. 😀

May all your cards be live and your posts be Monster!

How did you accidentally reply to a thread that was more than 10 years old?

I am genuinely curious, I am wondering if there are other ways to read this site than what I am doing.


He wants to unlock the direct message feature and is looking for content to add.


Getting back to the original question of top 10 hands, I calculated the average ranking from 6 sources (e.g., Equilab, ProPoker Tools) and found the following:


As to be expected the lower the ranking, the higher the standard deviation -- that is, the more variance among the ranking systems

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