Open limping with Suited Aces and low pocket pairs?
Can i open limp these 2 hands? I prefer limp/calling over raising with these types of hands.
Also open limps tend to set off a chain reaction of limps, at 1/2, and these hands play very well multi-way.
Also the 1/2 game I play is uncapped, so the stacks are usually deep, giving me great implied odds when i hit my sets and nut flushes.
I think I should limp these hands in EP/MP. LP Just raise them.
Open limp > Open raise? (At least in early position)
Also side question, why is open limping seen as terrible, but limping behind is seen as okay? Whats the difference?
Limping with small-to-medium pairs is -EV and a pretty big leak, since it's just a variant of poker bingo. Also, the risk of set-over-set is real, even though TAGfish will call that a "cooler."
My default now is to just fold small-mid PPs unless:
1. I'm in late position,
2. I don't want to raise, and
3. I don't think it'll be raised behind me.
Tell me you haven't ever played against a drunk guy on the strip who shoves high card on the flop because they think they have a straight or want to make a BIG BLUFF like they do in the movies,
without telling you haven't ever played against a drunk guy on the strip who shoves high card on the flop because they think they have a straight or want to make a BIG BLUFF like they do in the movies.
Put a better way in old school words.....
Limping small pocket pairs early in a low limit game infested with bad players has much higher IMPLIED ODDS than it does in a higher limit game populated with at least decent players.
Also, in higher limit games with better players if you miss hitting your set you are playing small pocket pairs with multiple probable overcards out of position against decent players. Terrible place to be and not likely to be a moneymaker.
In a game with worse players, the penalty of having to play a small pocket pair out of position without hitting a set is much less burdensome. In Beginner type games, limping pocket pairs early isn't likely to be -EV unless there are extenuating circumstances.
You are harder to play against if you just open your whole range and play accordingly. Your best bet is to tighten up and get value vs those who don't understand the reverseds. By playing like them you place yourself in their category. Why would you want to do that?
Put a better way in old school words.....
Limping small pocket pairs early in a low limit game infested with bad players has much higher IMPLIED ODDS than it does in a higher limit game populated with at least decent players.
Also, in higher limit games with better players if you miss hitting your set you are playing small pocket pairs with multiple probable overcards out of position against decent players. Terrible place to be and not likely to be a moneymaker.
In a game with worse players, the pe
Are you opening larger with your premos?
You are harder to play against if you just open your whole range and play accordingly. Your best bet is to tighten up and get value vs those who don't understand the reverseds. By playing like them you place yourself in their category. Why would you want to do that?
For many people:
1. Playing aggressively is scary due to the amounts being bet.
2. Limp-calling with PPs is about the easiest type of hand to play.
3. Given both of the above, people fool themselves into thinking they can play BINGO better than everyone else at the table.
In general it is better to fold speculative hands in early position, rather than open limp with them. Even if you do get your wish and it is limped in behind you, you are still out of position and it is going to be difficult to show a profit. When you are on the button and CO, you can evaluate the action in front of you but in EP you don't know what will come.
It is true in a loose passive game you are less likely to face the ultra punishing situation where you are raised by a dominating range and forced to fold or play out of position with a weak range that would likely occur in a tough game. But even still I don't feel comfortable limping in up front. I'm not a huge fan of limping in behind either, although there are more situations that warrant it.
What's a pro looking play?
Depends upon the other players. In some games absolutely. If expecting a couple of calls there is absolutely no reason not to open larger with premium hands. Make them pay as much as possible.
In games where there are semi-thinking players that still play bad postflop but will fold preflop then no.
I have played in games where set mining with QQ is correct and where openly shoving 100bb is correct. It depends upon the other players and their tendencies. That is the while reason to have an understanding of the fundamentals of poker.
