Connection between position and winrates (SRP).

Connection between position and winrates (SRP).

Hi guys,

I played 200k hands on R&C 25NL 6max GGpoker, and doing a database analyse.
My question is regarding winrates from different positions when raised first in (no other filters applied). To simplify I excluded SB RFI for this question.

Over my sample there is no smooth build up in, for example EP being the lowest, and BTN being the highest winrate (or the other way around for that matter).
Maybe my sample isn't big enough, but I was wondering if winning players over a larger sample do have this smooth build up, where there is a connection between winrate when RFI, and being EP or LP.

Current winrates:


I understand the cons and pro's of both, where EP has a stronger OR, and LP open has more probability wining preflop uncontested. But I would like to know which spot needs more analyse / study at this moment 😀.

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26 February 2025 at 08:50 AM
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I think it’s small sample. 21K total hands is not really enough to establish your overall win rate to a reasonably high confidence level. Certainly the few thousand hands at each position are insufficient to establish your win rates by position.


by stremba70 k

I think it’s small sample. 21K total hands is not really enough to establish your overall win rate to a reasonably high confidence level. Certainly the few thousand hands at each position are insufficient to establish your win rates by position.

Hi Stremba,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

The total sample of played hands is 200k.
The 21k hands is when raised first in from these positions.


I think I wrote down my question unnecessarily complicated, reading it back.

Basically what I’m wondering, is if when hero raises first in, should the winrate get higher the closer we get to the button?


RFI winrates should be ~55+, yours are high (which is good). The RFI wrs don't change much really. My HRC sim has them being basically 55-60 I believe from EP/MP/CO/BT with BT being highest.



I should also add that to a certain extent stremba is correct... a 95% confidence interval for your sample size and a standard deviation of >100 is going to be +/- 30-50 the listed values.


by Guus-Geluk k

Hi Stremba,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

The total sample of played hands is 200k.
The 21k hands is when raised first in from these positions.

Ok. I guess I misunderstood the data you presented. That 21k RFI out of 200K hands is only 10.5% which seems a bit low for RFI, but if that’s your stats, it is what it is. It does look like you RFI more often from later position, which is to be expected. I would still say that your sample sizes are too small to really draw any conclusions with reasonable confidence.


by Brokenstars k

RFI winrates should be ~55+, yours are high (which is good). The RFI wrs don't change much really. My HRC sim has them being basically 55-60 I believe from EP/MP/CO/BT with BT being highest.

If I am correctly understanding OPs data, he RFI on 21K hands out of 200K total hands played. This is an RFI percentage of 10.5%. That could be the explanation for his high RFI win rate. It stands to reason that playing a tight opening range would give a higher WR for hands that were opened. A 10.5% RFI range certainly is tighter than standard.


by stremba70 k

If I am correctly understanding OPs data, he RFI on 21K hands out of 200K total hands played. This is an RFI percentage of 10.5%. That could be the explanation for his high RFI win rate. It stands to reason that playing a tight opening range would give a higher WR for hands that were opened. A 10.5% RFI range certainly is tighter than standard.

He did not include SB which may be in the 200k total, but in the other column. You are correct, though.

OP can you post your RFI % by position?

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