Flush draw study
Hi guys, i'm sorry if i'll bother you all with dumb/newby questions but i need to discuss/argue, exchange ideas.
I play microcash, after 15+ years hiatus, and i'm winning at that. ( It's a complete new world if you think at all the info you have now compare to then).
Now, one at the time, i'm studying topics. I want to clear all in the flush draws: hot to play them, math stuff, et cetera.
1-Articles and good stuff i should read online? thanks a lot
2-I was reading this "UpSwingPoker" article. https://upswingpoker.com/flush-draws-pre...
in the first image hero is Check-Raising, at some frequency, bad flush draws and really good combo draws.
Hands like 7d6d,6d3d,8d6d,Ad2d,Ad3d are check-raising to call an eventual shove?! Right?
While the check-raising with KdXd, QdXd,JdXd,TdXd are all planning to fold?
Thank you guys, i'll write many more question here.
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You're not really going to get 3-bet on the flop after x/r at a very high frequency (=<5%), so answering that question is not particularly useful. It also is heavily dependent on the sizings of the flop c-bet, flop x-raise, and the subsequent flop 3bet as well as the SPR.
Ok, i get it but here i'm talking about microstakes human play, where there isn't a lot of reasoning behind a play. I understand that this kind of article isn't the right one for what i'm looking for but it raised some questions. I know that sizes are pretty off, is not likely someone shove for 80+bb, but conceptually?
Can you please give me some links to study the basics of playing flush draws and draws in general?
Thank you
Ok, i get it but here i'm talking about microstakes human play, where there isn't a lot of reasoning behind a play. I understand that this kind of article isn't the right one for what i'm looking for but it raised some questions. I know that sizes are pretty off, is not likely someone shove for 80+bb, but conceptually? Can you please give me some links to study the basics of p
If someone shoves and you're deciding whether or not to call, then you calculate the equity of your hand vs. their shoving range and if the equity of your hand is greater than the pot odds you call.
I cannot provide you with links to study, but if you have general questions I can attempt to answer them.
My Hold’em Mathology blog on Tumbler analyzes turn flush and straight draws
We consider the following situation. Hero has to call a bet but the current pot odds do not justify a call. However, hero has a good draw, which, if hit on the next street, may justify the call through implied odds. With a hit, hero will make a sufficiently large future bet that is likely to be called. If hero doesn’t hit, he will fold and lose the call amount. We are therefore considering through implied odds possible future action, which will, at least partially, address the criticism that early street EV analysis ignores future betting if not an all-in situation.
The Flush Draw and OESD Situation.
Hero has both a flush draw and open-ended straight draw. A specific case is examined and then a table is presented generalizing the implied odds needed for a set of conditions. The model assumes villain will always call hero’s bet. A later posting addresses this issue. Also, there are blogs for only a flush draw and only a straight draw.
@OP, statman's article there is probably almost exactly what you're looking for.
