Combo counting practice
Combo counting practice

Combo counting practice

Hi all,

Just wondering what practice exercises people find helpful to develop using combos when playing at the tables?

When you're at the tables do you use exact numbers or estimations?

Thanks,
Gabe16

30 August 2016 at 10:36 PM
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by Gabe16 m

When you're at the tables do you use exact numbers or estimations?
Gabe16

I'm close to exact numbers. I've been using https://flopsy.io to learn. It's a tool focused on teaching you how quickly calculate possible/blocked combos in villain's range.


by heehaww m

You can spectate hands or just take a deck of cards and deal some boards. Give villain various ranges and then try counting the hand combos of portions of their range.Get fluent with "choose 2".C(n, 2) = n(n-1) / 2E.g. if there are 3 spades on board and you have none, there are C(10,2) = 10*9/2 = 45 flush combos for a Villain if they're playing any suited hand. After some pract

I think you are way off. The typical hand reading strategy is to:

- Start at preflop with 100% range.
- For each villain spot, discard hands that would have taken another line
- Continue on the next spot with the previous range.

In almost all situations unsuited cards are folded way more often than suited cards.

On a similar note:

I'm close to exact numbers. I've been using https://flopsy.io to learn. It's a tool focused on teaching you how quickly calculate possible/blocked combos in villain's range.

You are not and you shouldn't.

While you can get exact calculations in situations where there is no human action involved (like the odds of being dealt XX) in almost all situations there's human action involved, in which case you can only approximate their strategy, for example, they are calling 20% of their range with a linear ranking or they are cbetting 50% of the time with AKs.

When performing mathematical operations of two numbers with different precision, the result has the precision of the smallest operand. For example:

10% of 852.48 is ~85

To say that your result is 85.248 is to have more precision than is actually afforded by your methods of calculation, and is an inappropriate overconfidence in your results.





I was just wondering how useful is combo counting in actual situation? I became very interested in this and have been trying hard to exercise it. Realised that I am not very good at it. I understand it is useful especially when villain bets x size of pot, u can decide to fold/raise/call. U can use the combo to calculate the probability by estimating his range vs your range and if he is overbetting/bluffing or what you are blocking...etc

I have been trying the "choose 2" method and sometimes I calculated it inaccurately, I think I applied the method wrongly. As this method calculates suited combos and non suited altogether.

Please correct me if I am wrong.


what is the normal situation where u use choose 2 as a method to count? i realized that mostly it is better to multiply the cards that are still available. Example: 3 Kings and 4 Jacks left in deck = 12 possible combos. (3 of which are suited)

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