The Relevance And Significance of the works "Ideal Money" to Bitcoin
I will use this thread as a dialogue and inquiry for those that are sincere in wanting to understand the works entitled Ideal Money which is, in summary, 20 years of lectures and writings on the subject of the advent of an international e-currency with a stable supply and the game theoretical implications it will have the world.
But as with any brilliant and complex ideas and discoveries there is a long journey to understand the reasoning. It takes time, and its well known with Nash's other work that there is incredibly subtle nuance to his thinking.
He also left a clear memo that he was obfuscating the meaning of his words for fear of government reprisal:
[QUOTE=memo]" The script or plan for my talk linking the "ideal money" with the choices and actions of "thrift" or "savings" by persons or by "economic agents" was influenced by concerns that it would be wise not to speak too incautiously of "the Keynesians" when the times are such that massive public opinions may be supporting actions by which a state administration can act without going through the parliamentary processes to write new legislation. So in the rush of political campaigns and elections (for example in the USA) it is difficult to sell a national monetary policy which, if followed consistently on a "long run" level, would result in the specific nation state existing as if on a higher level of economic civilization. (For example, Sweden and Argentina might be usable, over a long time comparison, to represent comparable "economic civilizations".) Therefore, I had arranged for 2012 to talk more cautiously in relation to whatever would impact with "the Keynesians" and with the political interests relating also to the scholarly factions allied with (or forming) "the Keynesians". And this caution carries over naturally to 2013 also. "[/QUOTE]
The first quote I think that is most important to read in order to begin to traverse the argument is this one:
[QUOTE=Ideal Money]"The ultimately launched concept of "Ideal Money" became possible when I conceived of a practical basis for a standardization of the comparison of the value of the currency with an appropriate standard or ideal. And the key to that was the idea of an ICPI or (international) "Industrial Consumption Price Index".[/QUOTE]
The concept of the ICPI is not perfectly new. George Selgin and many others have said of Nash's proposal:
But we can clearly understand through Nash's words that Selgin has missed understood the role and purpose of the ICPI in the proposal:
[QUOTE=Ideal Money]It seems possible and not unlikely, however, that if two states evolve towards having currencies of more stable value as measured locally by national CPI indices that then also these distinct currencies would tend to evolve towards more stable comparative relations of value.
Then the limiting or “asymptotic” result of such an evolutionary trend would be in effect “ideal money” but this as a result achieved without the adoption of anything like an ICPI index as a basis for the standard of value.[/QUOTE]
This is why the previous quote is important to understand, it is by constructing a theoretical ideal, that allows us to extrapolate and implementable project.
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Money I think is the primary intersubjective truth. I think it connects us better and more importantly than we realize (ie I think we forget almost everyone uses it.).
When tribes different so vastly their money systems and languages don't connect its like clashing universes, they can't but fight to the destruction of one.
But eventually a single system (but multiple currencies!) wins out and brings order and cooperative gain to otherwise non-cooperative entities. Its not to have one money. Its to have a single system of order. Either are the same in this sense, of course to have only one money is to have a single system, but that doesn't address the problem of today's fragmented global economy.
Here we want to note how the significance of something like bitcoin lies not at all in connecting the average citizens with each other via transactions but rather about the global settlement between superpowers in conflict.
We want to re-orientate to see the importance in addressing the problem of needing to move to a single monetary order and understand and discuss the game theory behind it.
the false bitcoiner narrative that we must fight against our states control. But don't we really want our nation to be able to defend itself via other central banking competitors? Then central banking is important and good.
Do we use central banking and inflation to fund war? Then its a defense mechanism if needed isn't it?
What happens when we get mature and look at the game theory from a balanced perspective not a moronic one?
Image a time and tribes/civilizations at war. And the economy of creating arrow heads and the game of shooting arrows at your enemy and the game of reverse engineering the best arrow heads. Securing the best quarries for the best weapon materials and the types of metals that are accidental biproducts of the arms race...
The division and specialization of labor.
and then one day, or some time, there is peace between the tribes.
What should happen with the arrow heads?
I'll never understand why this is off topic but anyways....
people need to understand what is going on.
No they don’t. The more misunderstandings the more easily they are manipulated. To your own benefit.