Bitcoins - digital currency

Bitcoins - digital currency

Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer digital currency. Peer-to-peer (P2P) means that there is no central authority to issue new money or keep track of transactions. Instead, these tasks are managed collectively by the nodes of the network. Advantages:

  • Bitcoins can be sent easily through the Internet, without having to trust middlemen.
  • Transactions are designed to be computationally prohibitive to reverse.
  • Be safe from instability caused by fractional reserve banking and central banks. The limited inflation of the Bitcoin system’s money supply is distributed evenly (by CPU power) throughout the network, not monopolized by banks.


Total size 5,811,700 BTC
or 4,585,431 USD
or 3,545,137 EUR
or 133,094,323 RUB
or 3,849 ounces of gold


Any value to this idea or will it never work?

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02 April 2011 at 02:44 AM
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by Go Get It k

Seeing the CZ vid a few posts back, is CZ in prison? Feels like I haven't seen anything with him involved forever.

Dude had to pay like $4B in fines or something insane iirc.

Was released about 2 months ago.


@Ukay

I've never used Jade so I can't give you any advice about that. Storing Bitcoin can be as simple as having the private key saved on notepad stored on a USB stick or put in a paper wallet. Rather than make it extra hard to access your bitcoin, you could also consider storing it in multiple places. So with 20k, you could put 5k on 4 USB sticks individually. That way if you lose one it isn't as bad of a blow. You could also store 5k on 2 USB sticks, 1 on a paper wallet, and 5k on an exchange. If you are worried about losing your bitcoins in a house fire you could further place them in fire safes. The beauty of it is you can store it however you want. Losing access to the coins is always a risk.

I personally get terrified with the whole "you have this many guesses on your passphrase or the bitcoin disappears thing".

I always liked bitaddress.org for generating bitcoin addresses. The site creates the addresses using javascript to generate addresses. When I initially did this, I would hand write it out on a piece of paper with the neatest handwriting possible and oh so super careful not to make a mistake. I think the safer option is to just print it out or type it out on notepad on the computer and save to a USB. Maybe save multiple files of the same thing just in case you accidently hit a key and delete some characters off your private key and the mouse gets bumped by your elbow and clicks file save. That would suck.

I remember another time when there was so much money on a paper wallet that it was making me uncomfortable, so I ended up splitting it up and moved it to some other places.

I believe the correct approach is to spread your money out rather than keep it all in one safe secure place. Don't overwhelm yourself either though. Have fun with it. You want to find that happy medium between secure, but not overly complicated so that you lose access to your money.


I agree, plus I'd like to add that improving your security is a process over the years, start small, stack, and hold Bitcoin, and while your wealth grows you invest and experiment with improved security, with paper wallets, apps, cold wallets and so on... take your time and learn from experiences.


@MeleaB I understand the splitting it into three parts, however I don't have three locations that I can rely on. I have decided that by splitting it into two and keeping both separate if one is compromised then the attacker will not have access and I can send my bitcoin to another hardware wallet. The only point of failure is if my hardware wallet and one part of the seed is lost which is very unlikely. If I lose one half the seed I can send to another wallet, if I lose the wallet I still have both half of the seed and can back it up.

@TheGodson Thanks that is definitely something to consider. If I am purchasing the bitcoin on an exchange like kraken or coinbase, then how do I get the bitcoin to a usb? I have got a jade offline wallet device and gone through the process of sending the first £50 there, however was getting confused with the address (see below).

I purchased my first bitcoin for £50 today on kraken and transferred to my jade. This is the first bitcoin transaction I have done and am not sure if I have done it correctly.

It was my understanding that bitcoin addresses do not contain "i", "l", "0" or "o" so people don't make silly mistakes typing in the wrong address.

However when I went on the blockstream green app and created an address and confirmed it with the jade, the address had 0s in it and also a character that looked like a combination of an "i" and "1" I found this to be very confusing and when I inputted the address into kraken it said the address was invalid. I double and triple checked it. I believe I was trying to input the character as a "1" but I don't know if that is why it wasn't working.

So I then copy and pasted the address in an email to myself and then just coped the address from the email to the kraken sending address and it worked. I don't know if I have sent the £50 to the correct address or not.

When will I know if the transfer has gone through correctly? How do I tell if this character is an I, L or 1? Without copy and pasting it in an email? Is copy and pasting it in an email safe?

Sorry I am new to all of this, appreciate all help.
Edit, I have an update. On the green app it shows the transaction as complete and it now shows my 0.00064248 BTC or 60.86 usd. It shows the received on address and the transaction ID.
However when on kraken pro I click on the blockchain explorer link it shows fee sats $36.80 Fee38,736 sats $36.80
38,736. Why did I still receive $60.86 if the fee was $36.80?

Is it safe for me to share the blockchain explorer link here? Thanks.


by Ukay k

I purchased my first bitcoin for £50 today on kraken and transferred to my jade. This is the first bitcoin transaction I have done and am not sure if I have done it correctly.

Something to look at now too, if you haven't already, is understanding UTXO's(Unspent Transaction Outputs) and how in the future there is going to be a problem with small UTXO's becoming dust because they can't be spent on-chain as transaction fees(sat/vB) rise above single digit sats.

The workaround will be to consolidate all your UTXO's in the future when transaction fees are low, but the sooner you take this into consideration the better.

If interested:


by MeleaB k

Re: Stress of storing seed phrase. If you don't use Shamir backup, then you can make your own from a normal 24-word seed phrase.

Eg:
Words 1-16 in one location
Words 1-8 and 17-24 in one location
Words 9-24 in one location

Give chatGPT 30 words 1 at a time, 24 of which are your seedphrase and have it write a short story using each word in a paragraph. Doesn't take long to memorize where the correct words are.


11 states so far. Now it's a game of states front running federal.

https://x.com/Dennis_Porter_/status/1864...


nice run to 99k over the last hours



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