2024 Fantasy Football Thread
Welcome to the 2024 fantasy season, where I'm officially addicted to best ball. I've been drafting since the end of Jan
Oh, the other thing for me (can't remember if it was Levitan or Herzig) was them talking about the difference on DK and how they always try to get 3 stacked QBs.
For some reason I've talked myself into doing more 2 QB builds, but I'll be doing more 3 QB builds now on unless my QB1 is Josh, Lamar, Jayden, or Hurts.
Yeah I think Leone did some research 2-3 yrs ago that getting 3 QBs is extremely valuable in 20Rd, even with those top guys
The cheaper backfield stacking and te allocation after the t2 are the 2 takeaways that I took from it
I haven’t been doing the cheap backfield combos (even though I did Warren/najee a bunch last year)
I’ve been doing the te allocations, but I think I should be more aggressively pushing given the current pricing
Herzig is certainly way sharper than me, but I'm still not a huge fan of it. I get the uniqueness and floor element of it, but the upside still feels capped in general. There were 4 weeks last season where both BRob and Ekeler scored double digit .5 PPR points in the same week. The best score in those 4 weeks was BRob at 14.1.
Both had their 2 best weeks when the other wasn't playing, which obviously guarantees at least one zero for your roster in those respective weeks.
Those two may not be the best example, given Jayden is the QB. I can see some viability last season in some of the scores for Pollard/Spears, Bucky/Rachaad, etc. But even something like the Sea backfield feels like it's usually one or the other, where they score best when the other isn't playing.
Yea taking RBs from the same team was what stood out the most. I think they used the term "complimentary"
One thing I've been doing on occasion to diversify my portfolio a little more is forcing myself to draft guys I have the least exposure to every other round. So Draft 1, maybe I'll do that on the odd numbered rounds. In Draft 1, I'll do it in the even numbered rounds.
Seems like a solid randomizing idea. Do you still have SpikeWeek tracking?
Oh, the other thing for me (can't remember if it was Levitan or Herzig) was them talking about the difference on DK and how they always try to get 3 stacked QBs.
For some reason I've talked myself into doing more 2 QB builds, but I'll be doing more 3 QB builds now on unless my QB1 is Josh, Lamar, Jayden, or Hurts.
Yeah, I tried to do it a ton in the pre-draft contests. It's certainly easier in 20 rounds instead of 18, and adding a late stacked QB like Dart to a Maye/Dak team, for instance, seems like a nice upside addition. On UD, I'd probably stop a 2 QBs with Maye/Dak.
I think having 3 stacked QBs can really boost your upside for the playoff weeks, specifically w15 and w16 when you're trying to push through those pods. It also should help boost advance rates when you hit on the offense. In w17, you'll probably just need to have the guys you need, regardless of how many stacked QBs you have. But having more stacks also gives you more chances to have the guys you need.
Herzig is certainly way sharper than me, but I'm still not a huge fan of it. I get the uniqueness and floor element of it, but the upside still feels capped in general. There were 4 weeks last season where both BRob and Ekeler scored double digit .5 PPR points in the same week. The best score in those 4 weeks was BRob at 14.1. Both had their 2 best weeks when the other wasn
I think it's more about trying to capture points from the offense as a whole. I would liken it to stacking 3 WRs with your QB. Obviously not all 3 are likely to go off in a single week.
The key is to do it with RBs that are capable of having a good game while the other one is still active. So Barkley/Shipley or CMC/Guerendo are probably not good choices since Shipley and Guerendo's value is more contingent based on the RB1 missing time. Then of course you're also investing R1 capital on Barkley and CMC so you're hoping they last all year.
Yep. My free trial ends on the 14th, but I'll definitely be renewing.
Definitely bad with the high cost guys or the backfields where the top guy has 70-80% and the other guy(s) are pure cuffs.
As things stand today, I'd say it probably works for
Wash
Steelers
Jags
Titans
Chiefs
Cowboys
NYG
Vikings
Bears
Though, the problem with some of those teams are we don't 100% know who the top 2 guys are. But take the Jags for instance where everyone is round 10 or later, I wouldn't mind some Tuten/Etienne, Etienne/Tank, Tank/Tuten combos. I've been close to clicking it a few times but haven't pulled the trigger.
Can maybe make the case for LAC, NE, NO, Clev, but I probably want the first RB by ADP to be in round 7 or later.
Trade heavy dynasty rookie draft for me
Traded away Sutton for Kyle Williams 10x10 ppr tep sf
Just wanted to get a bit younger on my team that’s competing. Definitely worse for this year, but trying to avoid having to break it up in a couple years
ETR calc says I won by a lot, but doesn’t feel like it
Roster is now
Allen, Lamar, Geno, Levis, Milton, Rush
Henry, Brown, Pollard, Warren, Dowdle, Hill, Chubb
Nabers, AJB, Tet, Pickens, Ridley, Ky Williams, Kirk, Keon, Nailor (will drop), Diontae, Boutte, Whittington
Jonnu, Andrews, Likely, Warren, Musgrave
In honor of today's conversation, my first build with 2 RBs from the same team (BAL).
Nix, Darnold, AR
Pacheco, Warren, Charb, Ford, Hill, Shipley, Keaton
ARSB, AJB, JSN, Worthy, Sutton, Mims, Kirk, AD Mitchell
LaPorta, Muth
In honor of today's conversation, my first build with 2 RBs from the same team (BAL).
Nix, Darnold, AR
Pacheco, Warren, Charb, Ford, Hill, Shipley, Keaton
ARSB, AJB, JSN, Worthy, Sutton, Mims, Kirk, AD Mitchell
LaPorta, Muth
Don’t mind any of the players in a vacuum, but think i want to avoid darnold with another qb that might lose their job (darnolds contract means he has a chance to be benched , same as dimes last year)
Finally drafted some rookies.
Mahomes, Nix
Kamara, Harvey, Swift, Tank, Sampson, Woody
Nico, BTJ, Rice, Worthy, Mims, Williams, Bryant
Njoku, Goedert, Kmet
Can't ever be too happy about a team with a Giants stack.
Purdy, Tua, Dart
Achane, Chase, ETN, Guerendo, Spears
Nabers, Evans, Godwin, Olave, Pearsall, Shaheed, Palmer, Wicks, Turpin
Jonnu, Strange, Theo
I think my first bully TE. Also doubled up Jags in the 12th/13th on good value. Allen unstacked, but he's the one I feel best about not having stacked.
Allen, Geno
BRob, Najee, Tuten, Tank, Lloyd, Neal, Estime
Puka, Rice, Olave, Pickens, Harris, Mims, Doubs
Bowers, Kittle
Can't ever be too happy about a team with a Giants stack.
Purdy, Tua, Dart
Achane, Chase, ETN, Guerendo, Spears
Nabers, Evans, Godwin, Olave, Pearsall, Shaheed, Palmer, Wicks, Turpin
Jonnu, Strange, Theo
I like it quite a bit with Purdy/Tua. My only critique is I like 6 RBs and 8 WRs.
That's fair. I am trying to mix in some more 5 RB teams if I get 2 in the first 3 rounds. Then just taking more stabs at WR 3's and 4's from good offenses at the end.
Haha, as I'm talking about light 5 RB rooms. I was planning to go 6 but then Tua fell 21 picks to 174. Drake fell 18 picks to 139. Those are absurd prices.
Caleb, Drake, Tua
Gibbs, Achane, Charbs, Tuten, Dobbins
Rice, Jamo, Flowers, Odunze, Shakir, Palmer, Wilson
Loveland, Henry, Higbee
Pickens to Dallas!!
Speaking of DK...ETR had him ranked 56 and already moved him up to 30 lol. I thought I was going to get him at 52, but the guy right before me sniped him at 51.
One of the smoother drafts I've been in recently, and got my first Chubb share.
Hurts, JJM, Bryce
Jacobs, Jones, Tracy, Dowdle, Chubb, Giddens
JJM, AJB, Tet, Addison, Tre, Thielen, M Wilson, MWill
Kelce, Otton, Chig
Haven’t been taking much Rome, but needed some upside
Caleb, Penix
Jeanty, Kyren, Chuba, Allgeier, Giddens
London, Adams, Rome, Pearsall, Mooney, Doubs, M Wilson, Mcloud
Loveland, Njoku, Chig
I took my first post-draft Rome share yesterday. I still haven't clicked DJM once yet. I'll start drafting them again, once I think they've bottomed.
This Pickens trade is a lot to digest.
Pickens - I think overall this is quite good for him. A big QB upgrade, an offensive environment upgrade, a lot of softer coverage due to CD, big play upside, etc. He also has contingent upside to become the clear #1 if CD is injured. I'll pay whatever price he ends up being. It'll be fun to have another good stacking option for Dak.
This tanks Tolbert and Turpin. I think Ferguson can still be fine, but moving from the #2 to the #3 should dock him a little bit, since he's a volume based bet. CD's bet is slightly less volume based, but he's still worthy of his mid-first price tag. Honestly, it'll help me feel better about clicking the RBs over him now, in the spots I do.
Pickens is obviously a volatile personality and the Steelers have moved off of a lot of WRs at the right time, so from that standpoint, this could still go south. But I think it's more so the Steelers chose to pay DK over Pickens and were never giving Pickens a big contract after that contract they gave to DK. Dallas needs to execute an extension now, but we know they're stupid and won't.
****ing hilarious the Cowboys get Pickens for this price after paying a 4th for Mingo last season.
DK - Man, I think I'm out lol, especially at a 3rd round price. ETR is wild for that 30 ranking with all the other guys in that range. There is still no guarantee Rodgers signs, and even if he does, what does it look like? He's another year older, he runs the slowest offense in the league, the Steelers will still be run heavy, Arthur Smith, win with defense, etc. I think this trade might signal more the Steelers could be tanking the season, even though that's not really their style. At a point, you have to get out of the bad playoff team with no upside range.
Obviously, there isn't much target competition and DK is the clear #1. But it's not a bet I feel great making. If Rodgers doesn't sign, this offense might be the worst in the league. I'm still not sure DK is even better than Pickens. If he's not, Pickens only had two top 5 finishes last year with similar target competition. Everything else was WR19 or worse. He had two games with double digit targets. He never cleared 20 points in .5 PPR. Pickens was a bad pick at his 3/4 turn price last season. And it's likely that between Russ/Fields, Pickens had better QB play than whatever the Steelers end up going with, even if it's Rodgers.
I think I'll still take him at the 4/5 turn, knowing he's going to rise, but I think the rise will be quick and probably won't have much opportunity. Once he rises, I'll be fading until we have more QB certainty.
Wow, the Jags just ate $20 mil in dead cap to release Gabe. He must really be toast. I hate all the shares I took early in the pre-draft contests lol. I'm guessing he will land somewhere, but it probably won't matter. Not like he was ever that good, but I still valued his spike week upside, especially in the late rounds.
Damn. Brutal!
Agree I don’t like dk at 30, but will also try to get as much as possible before he officially rises
Somewhat copied the ETR team haha
Jayden, JJM
Gibbs, Brob, Warren, Ekeler, Lloyd, Shipley
Ladd, Reek, Addison, Jeudy, Meyers, Kirk, N Brown
Engram, Goedert, Gesicki
Goedert officially close to agreeing on a reworked deal. I simply can’t believe it!
I guess the good value is about to end. That’s a shame.
Lmao, damn. He’s been my go to, especially with the Ferguson hit this morning
