What do I do here with AKo

need more info... u how many blinds do the other players in the hand have behind, how many blinds do you have and why r you playing 2/5 game if you are already lost in this spot?

Sorry, UTG has 156BB, MP has 120BB, and BTN has 85BB.

I have 207BB.

It's 2c/5c, so not big money!!

I think I should 4bet but not sure if it's best to shove!

Christ, you saying 2/5 made me think it was live and someone had made an absurdly small opening raise... 3b seems super obvious

Lol - so what do you reckon the best play is - 3 bet to what size or shove?

Shoving is terrible unless you know you have some idiot in the game who will call shoves with garbage hands. All you are doing with a shove against reasonable opponents is forcing hands that you want to call (AJ, AQ, KQ, etc) to fold and getting called by something like AK, JJ+. Three bet to something like 5x the open (normally you would 3! About 3x, but you have 2 callers). Your AK is probably doing well against the loose callers’ ranges, but you don’t really want them there. Your equity takes a big hit in a four way pot; you hopefully will iso against one opponent.

If the opener 4-bets you are not be too happy, depending on how aggressively he has bet pre flop. Against a typically passive 5NL player, you can probably exploit fold - they are only going to 4 bet with premium hands, and you aren’t doing well against that range. If he is a maniac, you would 5 bet shove. Against an unknown, I’d probably call and see what happens otf. If one of the loose passive callers 4 bets, I would be pretty confident folding. They very likely trapping with a hand like AA or KK

I got tilted at the thought of someone raising to $12 pf in a 2/5 live game. Get those $1 chips out of here and back to 1/3 where they belong.

OP: Obv a big 3bet here is the play. Somewhere around 15bb is fine.

Your best play would be to obtain and memorize a decent set of preflop charts.

Thanks, where would you recommend one that would help me with this situation.