playing low-stakes against players who don't know what they're doing
Hey, just a general question here.
How do you adjust your strategy at 1/3 when playing against guys who will call pre with K5o, 106o, call when they think their straight is good on a full house board etc.
What are you main adjustments for playing these type of players?
Do you just tighten up? I feel like when you do, they fold to you because they don't want to give money to a guy not playing.
So, do you loosen up? And start calling a little lighter with hands like KJ, A10, etc?
What's your adjustment? And how does it affect the way you play post-flop, etc.
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you get in cheap then value bet the **** out of them
The fundamental hustle of no-limit hold'em is this:
- 1. Raise in position
- 2. Continuation-bet on the flop
- 3. Profit!
In general, people want to see flops. They play too many hands, and they will pay too much to see the flop once they have committed money to the pot.
The basic fish style of play is to see a flop, determine whether they have hit it, and continue with their pair+ or draw and fold the rest. This means that they are folding on the flop ~60-70% of the time.
If you bet 1/2 pot on every flop, that bet will break even if it is called half the time, and since players will whiff more often than that, your c-bet will be profitable on average, over the long run.
KJ and AT do well against their garbage hands right? So yes loosen up a bit pre, rarely bluff just wait for made hands. Value bet lighter than you might normally against some of these players you can go 3 street with top pair medium kicker etc.
I've played a lot in games like this. It's not that hard. Iso limpers for value only. Like 77+ AT+ KJ+ vs multi limpers. limp 77 88 behind if u getting 3+ calls . Don't open raise hands like 76s EP. Too easily dominated in these games and no fold equity
Cbet flop v 1-2 people but generally give up once called on flop. Unless a scare card that they can fold too often comes up. Pretty much play abc on turn and riv and use big bets for value .
don't play against this guy
If you have to ask you don’t know what your doing either
The fundamental hustle of no-limit hold'em is this:
- 1. Raise in position
- 2. Continuation-bet on the flop
- 3. Profit!
In general, people want to see flops. They play too many hands, and they will pay too much to see the flop once they have committed money to the pot.
The basic fish style of play is to see a flop, determine whether they have hit it, and continue with their pair+ or draw and fold the rest. This means that they are folding on the flop ~60-70% of the time.
If you bet 1/2 pot on every flop, that bet will break even if it is called half the time, and
I actually experimented with this and it doesn't work.
It's the Barry Greenstein play where you just c bet everything assuming your opponent misses most of the time.
If you do it and if you look at you're opponents fold to c bet in hold em manager it plummets using this strategy.
I guess the reason is certain boards just favor a villains defending range. They will find it hard to continue on boards like A22 whereas they will have lots of hands that can continue on J97.
Card removal is also extremely important. If you have KQ on JT4 it blocks their top pair and straight draw combos. It makes it more likely they have a suited ace or underpair that they will fold to your c bet that currently has you beat.
It would be great if 100% c bet yielded a guaranteed profit but it doesn't.
Adding another point why c betting 100% is really bad is it gives your opponent incredible odds on a call.
If you're opponent raises to 2.5 bb pre flop and you are in the big blind and you are guaranteed that your opponent will bet the flop with any 2 cards you get an incredible price on defending your big blind.
Every exploit is exploitable.
Hey, just a general question here.
How do you adjust your strategy at 1/3 when playing against guys who will call pre with K5o, 106o, call when they think their straight is good on a full house board etc.
What are you main adjustments for playing these type of players?
Do you just tighten up? I feel like when you do, they fold to you because they don't want to give money to a guy not playing.
So, do you loosen up? And start calling a little lighter with hands like KJ, A10, etc?
What's your adjustment
Against loose players who call to much there are two types of adjustments you can make (and they are in opposite directions). Either one, tighten up and play hands that are much better quality against their starting ranges. This is the very slow but steady way of beating those tables. The 2nd is to loosen up and play more hands, but play very exploitatively. The 2nd way generally involves being very good at being able to control the size of the pot and make some folds you wouldn't normally make.
If you are going to play more hands, you have to figure out ways to win large pots when you hit big hands with crappy holdings, but also make some big folds.
The OP describes a villain who calls with everything ..
and you want to fire away at every flop to make him fold?
Thatâs prob the worst thing you can do against this player type; youâre only âexploitingâ yourself .
When a guy is only playing his own cards, youâre not going to razzle dazzle him with raises and cbets
The first response to the thread was the best- get in cheap and go for value when you have it.
Maybe you should read the OP again.
If you don’t have the patience just ask for table change