Poker is not dead ,YET ?!
I am an ambitious guy trying to climb the stakes and make money playing cards.
I am definitely not the smartest guy out there, but I have been making some money playing NLH 6 max cash.
Current situation is :
-GG poker : getting raked huge , receiving only 13% avg rakeback from platinum
- WPT global : Tagged as pro -> They hided the soft tables from me forcing me to play mostly against regs -> Cut my rb to 0%
- Apps : Agents are banning me for making money
- I cannot play on Ignition,Stars etch
What is this ? Where is poker going ? Why do players accept that ?
Poker is supposed to follow chess. The whole industry though pushes it to become like blackjack!
A new site has to be created ! There should be an alternative! eg Poker without rake , but with an affordable fixed monthly payment which would scale the higher you want to play.Or at least offer this option for regs and keep the rake for recreationals . Better do reg wars whole day ,than bumhunting ! At least when you loose, another guy out there is making a living!
I dont get this ' play for rakeback mindset' . I know that there are poker beasts playing for rakeback. Imagine what they would win in a game with less rake !
What do you want to become ? A blackjack grinder or a chess pro ?
I know that you may argue ,saying that there are massive HS winners . And I will agree. But not everyone has the talent ,network to climb to 5k+ (+the rake structure is way better there).
But even in the HS, they mostly run when there is a spot.
I hope to see a shift in the whole industry before I get too old.
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Sounds awfull, sorry to hear that.
Do you live in USA? What about live games?
In the future, poker dies and everybody plays sabacc. Haven't you seen the movies?
POKER FUTURE IS DEAD. DEAD. BURIED. GONE.At least for the low and small stakes. The dream? Over. The grind? Pointless. The system? Rigged beyond recognition.Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. The so-called global player pool is an absolute dumpster fire. Imagine this: the biggest poker site in the world — THE BIGGEST — is also the most cheated, most manipulated platform
No those on top give a very big damn and prefer as few as possible talented players advance as they prefer a pool with as few predators as possible. It isn't they do not care they actively prefer you fail.
Or maybe becoming a top level poker player is just very hard, and most people lack the natural talent and ability to do it? Why is it that there is an assumption that ANYONE can just work hard, apply themself, study, practice, and they will reach the top echelon of poker players? No matter how much one practices and works, if they lack natural talent, they will never become an elite level baseball or basketball player, and nobody would argue otherwise. Yes, those things require physical talent while poker does not. However poker requires mental talent, and I’m not sure why people think that just anyone can pick up that kind of talent just by hard work any more than you can acquire athletic talent that way. Sure, anyone can learn basics in poker, how to calculate outs and pot odds, memorize some preflop charts and things like that. Not just everyone can learn to do fairly complex math on the fly and understand and accurately apply game theory in real time. Not everyone can, in addition to learning and being able to apply the math, control their emotions sufficiently to avoid playing badly when they are frustrated by the inevitable downswings. Not everyone has these talents plus the fiscal discipline to maintain a proper bankroll to overcome extended periods of losses.
Yeah, I get it. It’s much easier to just say that everything is rigged against you than to honestly assess your own talent as a poker player and realize that maybe the real problem is just that you aren’t capable of playing art the highest level. BTW, I’m a rec player who dabbles at micros; this post applies to me as much as anyone else. I just realize that I’m never going to be a top level player. I lack the necessary talent to do so. I can still enjoy the game and have fun, and I am a modest winner at my games.
very time someone speaks up about how completely broken the GGPoker small stakes pool is, the same types of people crawl out of the woodwork to gaslight everyone.
“Maybe you’re just not good enough.”
“Poker’s still beatable.”
“Study harder.”
“Ecosystem is healthy.”
Yeah, sure. Spoken like a true low-stakes MTT grinder on 80% rakeback, or maybe a live player from geofenced America, or some leisure rec who fires up two tables on weekends and thinks he’s in the Matrix.
Let me guess: you’ve never played a serious volume on GG in the open, unrestricted, shark-infested global pool. You don’t grind 100k+ hands a month on NL50–200 and watch fake accounts with pristine PVI and zero history print the leaderboard every single time. You don’t see cloned avatars play identical ranges on identical lines, 12-tabling with zero downtime and zero emotion.
You sit comfy behind your safe pool, or you dabble at stakes where the damage isn’t obvious yet, and then you show up like the oracle of poker to explain to the rest of us how it’s all a “skill issue.”
It’s not a talent problem. It’s not that we don’t work hard enough.
It’s that you’re not in the same arena.
You’re watching from the stands and telling the guy in the ring why he’s losing — while the ref, the promoter, and half the crowd are all wearing the same logo.
But hey, keep preaching about mental game and fiscal discipline from your geofenced utopia.
