I have questions
What’s harder to pull off successfully:
To shove a huge bluff with no value at all?
or
To call a shove with a mediocre hand?
Can either of these moves be profitable?
Is the same skill necessary?
How do we pull it off?
What are we looking for?
Are they equally risky?
Are they even worth it?
Please jump in and help me gain clarity on a couple of situations that involve big pots.
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What’s harder to pull off successfully:
To shove a huge bluff with no value at all?
or
To call a shove with a mediocre hand?
Can either of these moves be profitable?
Is the same skill necessary?
How do we pull it off?
What are we looking for?
Are they equally risky?
Are they even worth it?
Please jump in and help me gain clarity on a couple of situations that involve big pots.
In live poker both need you to have good reads on your opponent but bluffs also require they not have a tell on you so I consider the bluff harder. Bluffs you pull off by having a convincing story. Normally hero calls require you either know they bluff too often or an unconvincing story.
You must bluff to win consistently in live poker
Don’t know why it took me so long to realize, but the first thing I do when I sit down is to start narrowing down ‘who’ to bluff. Once I have my target, I’m simply more willing to chase draws against them & bluff when I miss.
I only need one, but sometimes there’s several people you can run over. But as we all know, some people you should never bluff - and you should know who they are too.
Hero calls are not really advisable at lower stakes as you will be disappointed often. Too many aren’t putting money in without 2pair or better.
I’m not sure I project the OMC image, but I am old. My hero calls are usually against a young hotshot that tries to push me around. They target me to bluff & keep betting their pair of threes hoping I lay down top pair. They don’t understand I’m not coming in with nothing.
Both of these plays are very nuanced.
Things have to fall into place just right, because getting these plays wrong can devastate your stack
Hero calls are easier in that the play is over & you just fold if you’re beat. You muck & nobody even knows what you had. It’s much harder to sit there calmly holding nothing with your stack at risk screaming in your head fold, fold, fold!
So, if a player stares at your chip stack or asks to see it before making a bet, he’s often bluffing. True?
If I am doing that, I am always doing that so I know the various stack to pot ratios and thinking about how to value town. So false, but now that you mention it, I might do that when I have nothing occasionally for balance
First, I don’t know how to use a solver, but I know how to read the output, somewhat. Certainly understand the value.Then there’s Uri Peleg - no solver approach talking about creativity, flexibility, and practicality.So, does it have to be solver people vs non-solver people because I think it often is? I didn’t title this Solvers vs Creators, but ‘and’ - I think they should ble
Honestly don’t understand any of this
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This was in general discussion, why is it here now?
