Help me Fix this full swing once and for all

Hey peeps, been just over a year since the last video I uploaded.

I've been down the rabbit hole and back. Got way too into youtube tips and trying too many feels and swing thoughts. My swing got really twitchy, really inconsistent, and just not fun. Yes I built a sim. Some kind of investment for a golfer like me..

In an effort to simplify things, i've developed what is somewhat of a novel strategy for me.

In essence, i'm picturing the swing plane as a circle around my body. Once I take my setup, it's almost as simple as making the circle, and then pushing against the direction of the force of the circle with my lead leg as I get through the ball. The plane is steeper with wedges, and flatter with driver. It's really a feeling of almost pulling my body against the momentum of the club, to "crack the whip" so to speak.

There's really only two swing thoughts here - one is to keep my hands low during the takeaway to widen the circle. The other is to feel the pressure of my lead knee coming in towards the center, over my lead foot toe more or less. Then unwind from there.

This seems to remove any need for thoughts of wrist flexion, timing for initiation of downswing, shallowing, actively moving my hips in a certain way, etc. The club almost seems to square itself. Suddenly I can hit a fairway wood.

This is a developing story. I've only had one chance to test this out on the course with some great success. Shot 49-42 on a 6700 yards course, including 3 GIRs from over 200 yards with 3i and 5i (unusual for me!).

I think you're just going to be limited in how far you can hit it and how clean your strikes are by the lack of body involvement in the swing.

Even if you look at someone with a similarly looking short swing (think Rahm), he is extending his torso and turning his upper body way more in the backswing. Your backswing looks like it's all arms instead of the body turning and that being the generator to get the arms and club back.

I feel like if you've had a thread up about fixing your swing you've learned the hard truth by now which is: It's really hard to make swing changes and play good golf at the same time.

This current swing configuration for you can lead to consistency with strikes and playing decent golf if you practice how it feels enough, but I feel like your distance and compression of the ball is going to be greatly limited without getting the body more involved.

That swing gets me ballspeeds of 140-150 with driver off a clubhead speed of 95-100MPH and I hit my game improvement irons as far as I want. If I step on a 7i it's flying 180+ and rolling out to around 200 yards.

Distance isn't really the limiting factor for me, even if I could probably eke out a few more MPH of clubhead speed. Prior to my wrist injury last year I was reaching 110MPH with driver.

To be fair, the video I just uploaded was a little 3/4 P wedge 100 yard shot. I'll try to get a driver video up to show how much shoulder turn I'm making with that club.

the real story here is that you built yourself an awesome simulator for yourself. should make it easy to find time to practice more often. well done.

Here’s a full driver swing

may i suggest bringing the hands closer to the body
let the arms relax and fall straight down from your setup posture as the start
may not be much different from the current situation but shouldn't hurt to try and see what happens

Let's just appreciate the improvement between your first and most recent video in this thread!

It's really hard to give swing advice on a forum. I don't know how you best learn or what language suits you best but imagine this:

If there was a rope attached to a barrel that weighed 100kg on the ground and you had to drag it as quickly as possible, what technique would you use? You wouldn't yank at the barrel, you would drop all of your weight to the ground, and then push off and away from the barrel as hard as possible.

This is the technique you need to imagine when hitting a golf ball, because currently you are standing really static and trying to hit the ball with your arms. Your arms are weak, your core and legs are extremely strong- so use those.

how would you move if you were hitting a tire not a ball, or swinging a long tree branch

plant the butt end of a 5i right at the bottom of your sternum and hold it there close with your golf grip...take the arms completely out of it
now let your body move as required to hit a golf ball.

yes, maroochy!

still in the lab, have seen some progress. Self-diagnosis here is that a lot of my early extension and arm dominance is due to being out of position at the top of my backswing - sucking the club inside, too flat and across the line at the top. Compensating by firing hands down at the ball, because otherwise I couldn't get there.

Working on some drills to get the takeaway sorted, hands and club more vertical at the top, and lead with hips. Hopefully they help. Also I ordered some high speed cameras from AliExpress this week for face-on and DTL footage from the sim, so hopefully that helps me figure out what I'm doing better.

rob's not wrong