Caesars Poker Room to close for remodeling? mid July

I was at Mandalay in October when they had a high hand promo and it was a bunch of the same promo nits I saw at MGM for the NFL game seat drawings.

okay.
I was there in November and had a couple great sessions

Woof, that MGM promo. Played there three hours on a Sunday late October. Was on three different tables. All terrible.

Point is, this is a question that has been asked for decades. what does the question even mean?
deepest stacks?
fewest pros?
fewest regs?
most whales?
most recs?
loosest players?
most lively games?
most games?

these are not private home games where things are constant, these are public casino poker rooms which change day to day, hour to hour, table to table. the same person can have a completely different experience at one table within a few hours, or two people at the same time at different tables can have a completely different experience.

if there was a "soft" room it wouldn't stay like that for long because the pros would find it and swarm. then the games would suck at that place

additionally, the best game for me may not be a great game in your opinion. or, you are in an objectively good game but you hit a couple bad beats and have a huge losing session. how good is the game then?

This! AINEC

Hours promos seem to draw the biggest nits consistently, in my experience. That or big promos like that NFL promo at MGM. I stupidly tried it twice and couldn't find a good game there.

I think that is why the Wynn ($1/$3) is one of the softest. They do not have any promos. No promo grinders. The couple of grinders they have are all ABC players who likely like to say they are winners at the Wynn (as if beating up on newbies is a brag).

The $2/$5 is way more reg infested.

I suspect some of the nitty regs are scared to play 1-3 at the Wynn or Aria. If you don’t believe me just watch some of the Old Man Coffee videos of him playing at the Westgate. And I notice El Diesel almost never played at Wynn even though he certainly would have made more money there. OTOH some 2-5 players might occasionally play in the games.

But this is about 1-2 or 1-3. All the rooms are soft. Someone might play at Aria or Mandalay or MGM a few times, notice soft tables and think “Wow the games are great here” thinking the games are soft because of the room when it’s really the stakes making the games soft.

And sometimes it’s just variance if a room seems softer. Or the time of the year/week/day you go.

with high volume rooms i dont think you can really go too wrong so long as you look around and find a game that suits your interests. on my most recent trip last month (the week preceding xmas week), I was anticipating a slow period like other years, but seemingly there was a lot of available action in town mostly from the WPT. being open to playing games like plo or limit also helped with what otherwise might be less than ideal times to play NL.

the most unexpected room experience was probably the horseshoe. seems like a really high percentage of promo grinders with a few small stakes drunk recs sprinkled around. Cant really recommend the room per se, but if you are staying at the horseshoe, paris or PH specifically, it might be a good pit stop to check out.

P.S. -- if you ever want to meet Mason in person, he seemed to frequent the Bellagio at early AM hours -- probably around 3-5am in the morning often times sitting for a hour or two at 1/3 before picking up and taking off. Nice guy-- though seemingly reserved.

Rumors are the area under construction that used to be Emperor's Essential's next to Pronto will be the location of the new poker room. Anyone hearing the same?

Ive heard whispers...

No idea where those places are. Where are they in relation to the old room?

https://www.smartervegas.com/images/reso...

I'm assuming you can read a map.

Ugh. If so not a good location. Lot less traffic from randos.

poker is Caesars dirty little secret

Any poker location is better than no location IMO (that goes for every Vegas casino).

And despite the awesome previous location (right next to Sportsbook + a lot of foot traffic nearby), it's not like the games were super splashy with fish who came to try out poker. At least not from my (somewhat) limited experience.

Well, the Venetian moved their poker room off of the casino floor and it seemed to work out okay for them.

This spot at Caesars does get all of the convention traffic passing by it, as well as traffic going to the pool from all the towers except for the Palace tower.

A lot less casino smoke too like the Venetian room fwiw.

But that problem is super easy to fix. All they have to do is change the tier credit rate for 1/3 back to 17/hour like Horseshoe and all the former CET rooms paid.

Venetian has the tournament scene locked and this will always keep numbers up. Outside of these series the room is a lot worse from what I'm hearing compared to pre-move. Cash games dying quicker once the day is over and starting later.

Be interesting to see if the room does get more foot traffic from conventions. Not gonna get into the whole tier credit thing as although it does make the games not as good...it does bring the numbers in and gives CET less excuses to get rid of another poker room.

I wonder who said that. Is it someone comparing the room to what the old room was in 2015?

I think it has been the opposite. The room is a lot better and definitely busier since the move.

there's nothing around that at all, outside of the restaurants. it does make it arbitrarily more accessible since it seems more central to the middle of the casino floor.

I've made a few trips in the last couple years. I was still running into casuals / newbies in the Caesar's room.

Any idea when the new room may open? Going to be in LV in couple weeks and if room is open will make time for a session there to support.