Diamond in a Day - CET Total Rewards

Alternatively you can call 1-800-223-7277 and use your offer code there. I've done this twice recently and had no issues booking dates that include a Thursday and Friday night.

Did they let you use both on one booking? I recently redeemed 7 and they told me they had to set it up as 7 one day bookings then merged them when I checked in. Was a little concerning but worked out fine and only a slight delay getting it sorted.

I usually call the number, but I have done it online by entering the code just like any other promotional code.

The reason I usually call is that I tend to try and use my promotional free nights for expensive weekends or holidays. When you try and book expensive nights online, the nights might not be blocked out, but they are not available either. They will often have a "Call" indicator. Furthermore, by calling, often agents can check other hotels for you.

For example, I recently called to try and use a free promotional night on New Years Eve in Vegas. Online, most of the casions were blocked but a couple were listed as "call". I tried booking PH and couldn't get in, but the agent was able to book me into the Cromwell instead.

Calling is generally the best if you want to compare different options kr push for tough dates, but if you know exactly what you want and it isn't a super busy night, then booking online is fine.

Yes, each night was a separate confirmation during the reservation process. When I checked in at the Diamond desk at Paris they looked up my reservation and said “Here for one night?” I pointed out I had a second night as well and they quickly found it and merged them together.

Someone in the vlogger thread said that the Diamond benefit is going away this coming year at FoundersCard. Anyone else heard that or know that to be true? The benefit is still showing on their website.

Dunno about Founders, but I got an email from Wyndham that the Diamond match for being a business card holder is going away. Man it would be cool if anything ever got better instead of a slow steady enshittification.

FC benefit is probably going away. Here's what they sent me:

They did manage to suck me in for one more year though with a $100 credit to apply to this year's renewal, bringing me down to $195 for the year, just in case they work something out. I haven't looked through all the benefits in a very long time, so maybe I can find something or other to help offset that if Caesars actually is gone.

nothing corporate ever gets better.

Anybody know if AC is doing any more tier credit multipliers before the end of the year?

I'm still getting Vegas only in my offers. Thanks

With Wyndham Business Earner credit card no longer qualifying me for Caesers Diamond, I need some “diamond in a day” advice so that I can regain Diamond status and skip to the front of the cash game lines during next summer’s WSOP. In January, 2025, Caesers has a 10x multiplier promo for Vegas locations. I would like to go from Zero to 15,000 Tier Credit Hero during that promo. Based on my math, I will need to run $7,500 (plus a little cushion) through a slot machine in order to get to Diamond status. So, what is the best way to do that? I truly know nothing about the slots, preferring to focus solely on poker. Where to play? What are the best slot machines? What denomination bet? Any other advice? I don’t mind losing 10 or 15 percent, but really prefer not to lose substantially more. Yes, I have RTFF but still need and would be grateful for any advice.

A lot of people like video poker instead of slots because you can tell what your ev is on a vp machine by checking the pay table. I don't know of a way to check the ev of a slot machine. The casino will tell you the ev of their slots overall, but for a specific machine, I don't know.

If you don't want to lose more than 750-1100 bucks, you should decide beforehand what you'll do if you hit that number and only have 800 tier credits. Because that can happen, happened to me, and it's better to decide your course of action when you have plenty of time to think.

Having done the same thing before many times (though usually with only a 5x multiplier) my advice would be to learn and stick to VP (Video Poker) unless you are winning and don't mind burning some on slots to speed things up. With a 10x multiplier it won't be difficult to earn 1,500 tier credits, but it may be more of a risk than you want to take. IMO you need to enjoy VP enough to make this worthwhile. It is very possible to lose more than the 15% above trying to get the credits.

What I did the first time I tried this was to learn basic VP strategy using the tables using the tables at Wizard of Odds and then to practice online at VideoPoker.com. The latter has free VP, but if you really want to learn how to play well, spend the $12 for a month of the Pro version which will allow you to play all kinds of games and test your accuracy, as well as showing you the cost of your mistakes. (Gold works too.)

The first time I tried this, I thought I had a good feel for VP variance and sat down at a single line JoB machine in the Bally's high limit area and played until I was stuck $2200 with still no Diamond. (I would have made it at 10x, but not 5x.) I lost about $3,000 that trip all for measly Diamond status, an expensive lesson.

In later years, however, I've gotten to Diamond on 5x or even 3x trips without losing anything close to that, and winning maybe half the time. It is definitely not +EV, though, if all you want is Diamond. I just play for fun and try to arrange my trips around multiplier weeks.

IMO your best bet is to try the following:

-- Start by learning basic strategy by playing VP online and see if you enjoy it. If you do, learn the variants you like the most. Be sure you adjust the pay tables at VideoPoker.com to what you can expect to find at Caesars properties. You can sort of scout the pay tables ahead of time over at https://www.vpfree2.com. Beware that the very best games require $20 in for 1 TC and not the usual $10. Also, they are very high limit. Skip these if you are aiming for TC's.

-- Play enough online to get a feel for the swings and to learn the correct plays for the most common situations. Try playing 1 line, 5 lines, and 10 lines to see how it affects your swings.

-- I've had far the most success when I move around. Sitting and staying at a single machine that isn't keeping me close to even seems to always end badly, so I change machines and variants regularly. I don't mind playing the bad pay tables at the bar since it is more fun drinking and occasionally talking to people.

-- IMO you should avoid games with multipliers (STP, DSTP, Ultimate X) even though some of them actually improve your EV a little. That extra bet or two can absolutely crush your bankroll if you don't get lucky.

-- With practice you can easily play 500 hands an hour if you just want to grind. I don't, since I like to drink and socialize and move around, but even I can do 350 - 400 hands an hour without a problem, including talking and moving around.

-- With a $2k bankroll I'd stick to $1/$5. You need $15,000 coin-in and I would typically get that in two days of casual play.

-- Finally, be warned that you are pretty likely to lose at least $500 even if things go well. I'm pulling that number of the air from my many VP escapades. For me that's worth it. By then I will have easily had at least $100 worth of (Strip-priced) drinks, and by the time I factor in the savings from no resorts fees, some definite comped nights and the $100 Diamond Dinner, I'm happy. The days I've dropped $1500 are another story.

-- If you happen to run hot during the 10x you might consider pushing it all the way to Diamond Plus. Nearly always enough to top the poker list at the WSOP (except for the occasional 7 Stars players) and those 4 free drinks a day come in handy for water bottles or cocktails...

Hope this helps and good luck!

If you are in Vegas, I would recommend playing 9/5 JoB VP. JoB is the easiest VP variant to learn, and 9/5 is the highest payback table that CET offers at $10/TC.

They have these machines at $1 denomination (so $5/hand) at Caesars, and perhaps also at Paris. They are Spin Poker, so you can play as many lines as you want. My personal preference is 3 lines, so $15/hand. You'd need 1000 of these spins for 1500 TCs, so you could do it in about 2 hours if you're comfortable with the game.

Is VP sometimes excluded from the 10x promo or is just regular poker?

Vp always included afaik

Yes. Sometimes CET makes it obvious by putting it in a notice, I've seen it on signs on the casino floor, but sometimes they'll exclude VP and make it hard to find that out.

You don't have to hunt around for good pay tables, because CET doesn't have any. Unless you're talking high limit or reduced tier credit rates. At the normal $10/tc the best Bonus Poker has a payback of 98.01%, and every CET casino has the same type of odds. IOW no CET has ordinary BP that's better than 98.01%.

It's critical to earn tc's in blocks of 2500. That pays the best daily bonus of 2x. Earn 2500, get a bonus of 5000. Earn 5000, get a bonus of 5000, hence the title of this thread. Don't stop at 2499! Likewise if you know that you won't be able to finish off another block of 2500, don't put in another dime until the next day.

Be sure you know what a CET "day" is.

Also, it may or may not be a conspiracy theory, but like some others, I've had unbelievably bad luck on multiplier days. Even after the 5x or 10x I've lost a lot more money than on past no-multiplier days for a given number of tc earned. I lost $2200 trying to earn 1500 tc the last time I played a 5x day. Which means I didn't even earn 300 tc! I said enough is enough and just gave up.

It would be simpler to just shovel money into slots. Not as much fun though, and maybe not as lucrative.

Now that I re-think, it was live poker that was excluded. My bad.

In 2024 I noticed for the first time that some of the Las Vegas 5x promotions were only giving 3x for VP, and this was what I earned during one of those weeks. The upcoming promo in OP's post in January does not make any mention of reduced rates for VP though. Looks like 10x across the board.

Yeah I have taken some pretty bad beatings on multiplier days too, but decided that it might be the result of me staying too long at a losing session and pushing for points rather than getting up to take a break and change games. It's probably just a mirage, but you are definitely not the only person I know who's had this exact experience. And your earlier comment about Caesars not having good pay tables is spot on. It is pointless to look for anything really good, but it certainly helps to know how to tell a mediocre pay table from a really bad one, just in case.

If this is true, i.e. CET can/does alter the performance and payout of the VP machines on multiplier days, doesn't that mean you can NOT evaluate the EV of the machines based on the pay tables?

If they can tweak the payout on multiplier days, they could do so on any day or every day.

I have had this question myself but so far I have not accepted it is happening. Maybe because if I believe this then I "have to" stop playing VP (which is the only non poker gambling I do)

Allegedly vp has to be true random so if you know the pay table you know the payout.

I asked a similar question in another LVL forum and someone provided the following -- sorry I don't know how to quote the exact post properly, but this is the section of the gaming code that seems to apply to Video Poker:

You can find the requirements at gaming.nv.gov
I'd guess 14.040 is relevant
Quote:
1. ...
2. Must use a random selection process to determine the game outcome of
each play of a game. The random selection process must meet 95 percent
confidence limits using a standard chi-squared test for goodness of fit.
(a) Each possible permutation or combination of game elements which produce
winning or losing game outcomes must be available for random selection at the
initiation of each play.
Version 7
(b) For gaming devices that are representative of live gambling games, the
mathematical probability of a symbol or other element appearing in a game
outcome must be equal to the mathematical probability of that symbol or element
occurring in the live gambling game. For other gaming devices, the mathematical
probability of a symbol appearing in a position in any game outcome must be
constant.
...

My question was whether machines could be programmed to be fair in terms of total payout over time, but skew the way in which the cards came out. I wanted to know how and when the machines were audited, but I still have no idea about that. According to the letter of the law, manipulating the cards that come out seems to be illegal, but in my experience, different machines across town play very differently -- and I'm not talking about pay tables, but the frequency of straights and flushes filling etc.

I've decided to just trust that the games aren't rigged, since I like to play, but it's impossible for the average person to know if they aren't.

If it's true that they manipulate vp to lose more, then it's illegal as hell. I believe they have to use an approved rng in the machines. The rng has a list of numbers, so it's easy to check if you're an official.

My adaptation is, that I don't play multiplier days any more. At least not where machines are involved. I've had 3 bad, way below ev, trips on multiplier days. In a row. Too much coincidence for me to argue with.

It's the nature of VP's top-heavy paytables. 2% of the EV comes from the royal flush payout. So assuming you don't hit a royal and have normal luck otherwise, all of the sudden your 98% RTP is only 96%. If you turn that normal luck into slightly bad luck, it's easy to be "way below EV."

My buddy and I played Jacks or Better at Caesars Palace during their last 10x multiplier and profited despite no royal. Probably 150k coin-in between us