Facing a River Overbet in Low Stakes

Facing a River Overbet in Low Stakes

Villain in this case is a solid player. Just started playing full-time professionally.
Game is a local $1/$3, $8 rake cap. Only game for several hours away so it attracts a super wide variety of players/abilities.
9Handed, $300 Effective.

Villain UTG+1 to $15 (standard open size for the game)
Hero LJ with AhJc: 3b to $50
Folds around
Villain: Calls

Pot $104
Stacks: $250 Effective

Flop 9d8d3h
Villain check
Hero: $35
Villain: Call

Pot: $174
Stacks: $215 Effective

Turn: 2s
Board: 9d8d3h2s
Villain: Check
Hero: Check

Pot: $174
Stacks: $215 Effective

River: Js
Board: 9d8d3h2sJs
Villain: Jams $215 into $174
Hero: Calls
Villain shows JJ for top set

Analysis: I think my first mistake is that the preflop 3bet is probably too loose with AJo. The game is pretty soft so I tend to isolate fairly wide in position but given player profile probably not the time. I think flop and turn play (1/3, check) is pretty standard for the hand and board. I am going to arrive at the river with a lot of missed high equity draws and ace highs.

Thoughts on the villain's bet? Nuts is QT, which I don't think I ever have. I don't think AA KK TT ever play my line this way. Not exactly sure what he is targeting, unless he feels by polarizing that he starts to make AK AQ without diamonds a call.

For my river call, I think as played, this is probably near the top of the range I arrive here with. I don't think any two-pair combos or sets check the turn with the 98d on the flop. My initial reaction to the bet is that this was a chop, or villain was going for max value with KJ and QJ and also had some missed combo draws for bluffs (76s, KQs, AdQd. Need to be ahead 44% to call. I guess at 1/3 I probably am never ahead that often with 1 pair.

tya for any feedback

05 January 2024 at 03:53 PM
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I would just fold preflop. I don't love AJo against an EP open plus I pretty much avoid solid pros in all but the best of situations.

We have nothing going for us on this flop and it isn't supposed to hit us. Course a small cbet may fold out better Ax... but does he really just flat AK preflop / not fold AQ preflop? Never going to hate on a small cbet after 3betting preflop but not sure it is going to accomplish much other than perhaps give us a free card attempt on the turn.

Next time don't post the results as it will taint responses. I suppose there are some bluffs (busted diamonds). But river jams by most (although perhaps not him) are heavily tilted towards value at LLSNL. Also not sure what he is targeting with Jx hands with a shove (wouldn't he bet smaller to get sigh called by what looks like a whiffed AK?).

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While you correctly identified that your 3-bet preflop might be too loose, your postflop play seems reasonable.
The river decision is the most critical one.

Considering that you're likely only ahead of bluffs (missed draws) and possibly some worse Js, it's a challenging call.
Your opponent might not be bluffing often enough to make this a profitable call in the long run.
If you believe the villain is capable of bluffing with missed draws or weaker hands, the call might be reasonable.
However, against a solid player, the likelihood of facing a bluff in this spot might be lower.


AJo is a cuspy hand to raise against this V's EP open, in this game, with your stack depth. I'd prefer folding or just flat calling.

If you flat call, you can call a 1/3 c-bet, and just fold the turn if he bets the brick.

As played, the flop c-bet is probably fine, as is the turn check back. At this point, I'd be mentally done with the hand, unless we improve on the river.

River is a tough spot. FDFD missed, but QT/T7 got there. He could have some worse JX for value, but also 2P and sets. Maybe once in a while he shows up with QQ.

After you check back turn, he's going to have more bluffs in his range. It's a tough fold to find after you make TPTK. I'd think some of his weaker value hands would just check again.

In game, my thoughts would be that he probably wouldn't jam a worse Jx, so we're not beating any of his value. We're only beating his bluffs. Although the missed FD makes this call alluring, I think a good reg would under-bluff here, not over-bluff, if you have a reasonably solid image.

I might call anyway, when we get here the way we did, but I might find the fold, too, albeit not quickly or happily. I'd be sick if he turned over KJs or A9s.

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Grunch after 1st paragraph: This hand against this V? Why? Seems entirely unnecessary. Fold >> call>>>>>3b.


Preflop is very marginal. ATo would be an easy fold; against solid ranges AJo is probably a fold most of the time as well.

98x isn't the worst flop in the world, but it isn't great. You don't have any backdoors (I suppose you have backdoor straight equity) but other than that it's a whiff. As someone pointed out, you might fold out AQ/AK. Betting vs checking is probably close.

Turn check is fine.

After it goes check-check I would struggle to fold the river with TPTK - the quintessential bluffing spot. Odds are OK. AA and KK probably get 4bet most of the time, yes there are some big hands but don't 88/99/98 get check-raise on the flop a lot? Getting a price, I call this.


Fold > Call > 3bet PF.

As played, you cbet way too small. He's not folding much of his range to it.

Checking through turn, while keeping the pot small, reveals you don't have a real hand - otherwise you'd be OK to get money in on a connected board after you strung him along with a small cbet "for value".

River is a bit of a cooler, because it's arguably the best card you could hope to see if you think he floats your cbet with AQ AK, and now you've "hit something".

The overbet on his side looks fishy, but bet size generally equates to hand strength at low stakes. He's trying to tell you you're beat. Just listen to him and fold.


by wnrwnrchkndnnr k

Fold > Call > 3bet PF.

I agree that this is best played as a fold, but if we are even considering seeing a flop, the three-bet is mandatory. Flat-calling opens is a fish move.

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