Super Simple Question
H is playing in a relatively fit-or-fold game, no real 3B, opens are usually happening 33% of hands. No maniacs, just loose-passive types.
H has about 500, one player covers, all others have smaller stacks.
H is in the BB with A5dd and action is on him in the BB with about 4 limpers.
My question is simple; are you raising pf in the BB with A5dd or just checking your option?
I’d make a 10x-12x raise the first time you caught A5s here. What I’d do the 2nd time depends on what the table did the first time.
This is good. Raise if no one expects it. If it's a move you make with regularity you can end up having the gg's and other attentive players limp to trap. Disappoint them by checking.
I'd prob easily raise A10s+, and would at times raise A2-A5s some of the time, and than just check A6-A9s. Thoughts?
Also I understand Vernon's point, but define garbage? Like am I supposed to be raising 96o, 82o, Q5 in the BB? When I see an unknown player in the BB raising first into a bunch of limpers am I supposed to assume he his doing it with garbage?
I truly respect and value your input Vernon so do not think I am coming from a place of higher knowledge, just curious.
Maybe there's a solver solution for this. I don't know. My instinctive reaction to this sort of table dynamic is to continue raising the way I normally would, but raise larger. Perhaps we might tighten the range somewhat, but A5s would seem like a hand we would want to keep in that range.
A table of loose-passive fish, limping and calling, never raising, just trying to see cheap flops, would seem extremely exploitable. Aggressively raising should win pre-flop fairly often, which is good in a highly raked low-stakes game. Of course we'll get called sometimes, but that's fine, if we're raising a fairly strong range with hands that are playable post-flop.
I'd prob easily raise A10s+, and would at times raise A2-A5s some of the time, and than just check A6-A9s. Thoughts?
Also I understand Vernon's point, but define garbage? Like am I supposed to be raising 96o, 82o, Q5 in the BB? When I see an unknown player in the BB raising first into a bunch of limpers am I supposed to assume he his doing it with garbage?
I truly respect and value your input Vernon so do not think I am coming from a place of higher knowledge, just curious.
“Garbage” means true garbage. Stuff you’d fold from any position if it wasn’t the BB and you didn’t have the choice to see a flop for free.
I would not do this all the time, of course. I would mostly check. And if I thought that my raise would often get action I would never do it.
The whole point of this idea is that we believe, before we do it, that we have a good chance to get all folds and take down the pot preflop. And when we think that, we have to make a choice between trying to take it down and taking our flop and hoping we can make a good hand postflop. Well, the less likely we are to be able to make a good hand, the more attractive it becomes to take it down without a flop.
If we don’t believe we have a chance to take it down preflop then what I’m saying absolutely does not apply.
