A8s 832cc versus flop raise

I would have folded pf in the UTG with A8s. The turn is the second key. If you're behind, you only have 5 outs. You should fold if you think you're behind. If you're ahead, there is no point in calling the turn if you're going to fold getting 4:1 on the river with a blank. If he has one of the two remaining 3s, you just say NH.

Preflop is whatever; probably only okay if there's 6 or less at table.

That said, I think V as described would 3B! most of his pairs here with the straddler behind closing the preflop action.

AP: V takes polar line exploiting range advantage on flop and turn. We block his value 87/98 and V can have all the FDs too. V should take polar line with his vulnerable midpairs like 77/TT/JJ. But I think he 3B!s a lot of this range preflop.

Against this V I can't find a fold on river at 4-1 and I totally agree with Venice's river logic. I think V reps pretty thin and the paired board doesn't help V's story much here as A3s is blocked by H and the board too. We are getting the correct price.

TPTK is good enough to stack off with at this depth, yep, especially without a Club. A8 is better for you than TT here, too. Seems fine.

PRE - opening A6s-A9s UTG is a little sketchy. We raised to $60? That seems somewhat small. V could have a lot of garbage that connects with this flop.

FLOP - c-betting flop seems okay. Size seems fine.

I could also see checking, if V in MP likes to bluff, and / or he's the type to bet whenever action gets checked to him, and especially if he likes raising c-bets on boards like this, where he can have some 2P we'll never have.

Because our pre-flop open was a little small, and V can have hands like 54, 33, 22, and 32 here, as well as a lot of flush draws, I think I prefer a check-call or check-raise against this V (check-raise if he bets small).

As played, I think we have to call the flop raise.

TURN - Fold or jam. We can't call turn and then fold river, no matter what the river is, getting around 4:1. Doubt he'd flat call 99 pre. If he has 33/22/32, good game.

RIVER - can't fold. Just stick it in.

As described, V sounds like a guy who doesn't care about the money. Guys like that will frequently use aggression to make up for bad play. It sucks to pay him off when he actually has it, but we're going to have to call him down wider. We can't open A6s-A9s, flop TPTK, and then fold to a player like this.

I would have check jammed the turn. You don't want to be folding the river.

Lol not one person said fold at any point but pre...gone are the days of explo folding top pair to a raise I guess.

Opening this hand and opening to 60 are fine. I don't like the flop sizing. I would rather go 25% pot or check because it's multiway and not a great board for us and we want to pot control. As played this kind of makes the turn and river hard to fold and it seems okay how turn and river were played. The way you played flop is basically saying we are auto-stacking off if the flush doesn't get there and I'm not sure that's the best way to play this hand.

Explo-folding top pair to a flop raise is still a thing, but it's dependent on the opponent. If OMC raises your c-bet, it's an easy fold. If Aggro Andy raises, we'll need to call down more.

Now knowing what V had - it probably wouldn't have changed much if you raised bigger pre. He'd probably still call to set-mine. On the flop, while c-betting TPTK for protection is fine, we can also play it like a bluff-catcher against a V like this, and just keep check-calling, so long as he keeps his bet sizes on the smaller side.