I raise small preflop with AQ and get 3-bet, two people cold-call the 3-bet
1/2 9-handed (timed rake)
I've been at the table for only 5 hands. My VPIP is 0%.
I'm eff stack with $205.
I'm UTG with AQo. My open raise size is only $5 so I can play more hands.
I open raise to $5. LJ 3-bets to $20.
LJ had previously raised pre to $15 from the CO vs two early position limpers with pocket threes.
SB and BB cold-call the 3-bet.
Action to me. What do you do?
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Shoving can't be too bad.
Raising to 5 is way too small in a live game. Default should be at least 10 in a live 1/2 game.
I would just call the 3bet and hope to make a hand. You can shove depending on how much 3betting is happening in the game. In the games i play in 3betting is pretty rare except for me and one other decent reg. Any other regs that 3bet have a strong range so I would not want to stack off w AQo vs them. If the LJ is unknown i would default to a call here bc in general 1/2 players do not 3bet anywhere close to often enough.
Raising to 5 is way too small in a live game. Default should be at least 10 in a live 1/2 game.
I would just call the 3bet and hope to make a hand. You can shove depending on how much 3betting is happening in the game. In the games i play in 3betting is pretty rare except for me and one other decent reg. Any other regs that 3bet have a strong range so I would not want to stack off w AQo vs them. If the LJ is unknown i would default to a call here bc in general 1/2 players do not 3bet anywhere clo
LJ is not unknown. He previously raised pre to $15 from the CO vs two early position limpers with pocket threes. That seems like a pretty loose preflop raising range.
This spot is pretty maddening. If deeper this would be a pretty good 4b fold spot. Can’t do that at this depth. Shoving can’t be terrible with the dead money but I think we are only getting called by JJ+/AK. Don’t love turning AQ into a bluff. Folding out his smaller pairs would be great though. Calling sucks.
fold until you get a handle on his 3b range.
pre size seems silly to me just make it $10.
If you're opening to $5, expect to get 3B squeezed.
Either tighten up your range and open to whatever the standard open size is for the game, preferably from LP, or have a polarized range that's going to be raise-fold or raise-jam.
AP, I think we should jam. Playing AQo multi-way in MP between the blinds and the PFR is going to suck. The blinds can't be too strong, and LJ's 3B'ing range doesn't need to be when you're opening $5 from EP.
Am I too risk averse to not wanna jam PF here?
If you have a tight image, how about 4-bet to 100 and fold to a 5 bet?
Not folding. Also not 4b/folding, as you'll be getting at least a 3:1 price to call
LJ is not unknown. He previously raised pre to $15 from the CO vs two early position limpers with pocket threes. That seems like a pretty loose preflop raising range.
So we know he can be fairly wide and its not really a typical 3bet range bc you opened so small. I would just call though still. I think folding would be absurd.
Raise to $12-15 pre, if that means playing fewer hands, so be it. Your raise size is so small i have no idea if hes got his 3 betting range or just a normal raise range, and the raise to $5 is such a big error that I dont even care to think further about the hand past that.
I jammed after counting the pot and realizing there was so much dead money. Also, I thought 3-bettor could be pretty loose.
Also, I block the nuts and the 3rd nuts and I'm jamming from UTG.
3-bettor thought for a bit and folded.
The blinds folded quickly.
Easy game.
In my experience at these stakes a $5 raise will likely see more callers than if you limp. So if your plan is to see a very multiway now bloated pot OOP, raise to $5 from EP.
In my experience at these stakes a $5 raise will likely see more callers than if you limp. So if your plan is to see a very multiway now bloated pot OOP, raise to $5 from EP.
Geezus, that's so simple, so true, and so painfully obvious, yet it's never occurred to me before you posted it.
OP - perhaps consider a limp-call pre-flop strat, rather than opening $5. Still prefer raising a normal size with a tighter range from later positions, but limp-calling has to be better than opening for $5 and either folding to a 3B or going to the flop multi-way and OOP.
I 4bet shove