I hero'd down an asian man on monkey tilt.

If you have reason to suspect your opponent is significantly over bluffing, you can profitably call with every single bluff catcher.

So in your example hand, I would not call with Ace high or 22 (because V may be bluffing with a 3) but I would snap call JT.

I think the ISO pre is kind of loose but ending up HU in position against this guy is a fantastic result so what do I know?

JTo is not a good hand and is even worse given the tilted straddler and the fact it’s probably going multi way. Fold pre.

Post flop call call call is printing.

I think you played it well. I'd pump it up preflop with it also, you don't have to go broke with the hand, just raise it and play poker postflop. I also wouldn't say it was a hero call, seems like a very easy call to me given the description.

i dont like reading so im not even gonna try. basically just wondering about the grammar: "I hero'd down an asian man on monkey tilt" meaning you or the asian man was on monkey tilt??

Well played. You could semibluff raise flop if you think hes more inclined to fold his air than ship if, since his range is mostly air, and even if he calls, you have 10 outs to a likely better hand

Easy call

The AA hand is played terribly btw.

Anyways JTo is not an open there. As played flop good, turn good, call river.

First of all...dude, seriously, didn't you pinky-swear you were going to take some time away from playing, to un-tilt? Why does it seem like you're posting new hand histories every day?

As to your question about where to draw the line for our calling range - for me in that 7.5x 3B hand, the math-wiz answer turned out to be that my calling range needed to be able to call a flop jam often enough when compared to the implied odds I was getting on my pre-flop call.

The less complicated, more logical answer is his line made no sense, I thought there was a high probability he was FOS, and would chicken out and not jam every single flop, and that if he did jam the flop, I could rationalize calling often enough to justify my pre-flop call.

So for you, against this V and V's like him, the calling range should maybe be defined by the implied odds and SPR's, adjusting for how spewy he is by widening the range, up to the limit of your willingness to call this guy down wide.

So, as an example, if we're supposed to stack off with top pair or better at 1 SPR, against this guy, it might be 2nd pair, top kicker, or maybe even 3rd pair.

As for what our calling range is, and if we ever raise...in this hand here, obviously we'd rather have AK than JT. As played, I think I might raise flop with A9s and A7s. I might raise turn with J8 and JT, but also QJ and KJ. Why not raise, when this guy doesn't seem to have a fold button?

Against this V, I'd generally be willing to raise with a "second-best or better" range of hands on each street - middle-pair or better on the flop, top pair or better on the turn, and 2P or better on a lot of rivers, though maybe not one quite as $hltty as this.

As for calling down on rivers we're not super-comfortable raising, I'd probably look at the range of hands we'd bet for thin value, if we had the betting lead and V kept checking to us. On busted-draw runouts, we might value-bet (or call when this guy bets) with 3rd or even 4th pair.

Fold Pre, otherwise fine as played given Villain description and pot odds.

Easy call down. Villain has been caught bluffing before and we have a decent bluff catcher. If we are bear, oh well. Half pot turn, half pot river, we lost the minimum. When you float the flop with a gutter and two overs then bink top pair on the turn, plus you have a diamond blocker, a blocker to T8, and blockers to two pair, have a great bluff catcher vs a villain who actually bluffs.

Pre is questionable after several limpers. I would probably limp behind unless your isos are taking it down/getting it heads up often. When we are just going to get called pre by hands like AJo, KJo, QJo, ATo, etc, I think raising JTo is pretty weak. I would iso more linearly if that is the case. AJo+, KQo+, ATs+, KTs+, 99+, maybe a pip or 2 lower. QJs, QTs, JTs, are all border line imo when villains are very limp-call happy. Aim to be on the dominating side of the iso, not the dominated side.

The AA hand is played perfectly given the table. I got the maximum.

Yea I was just trying to get more at the idea of how do we decide what hands to continue with? Like for example, someone that's 3-betting you all the time and betting a lot post. Do you call looser or tighter? If you call wider then some of your calling range with fall below Vs betting range (since his range still has value and premium hands) and you'll lose those iterations, but these should still be +EV calls if my logic is correct.

I didn't think about SPR, but I guess deep you would want hands that are more nut-catching to straights and flushes like QJs and AXs (to call with) and less PPs and RIO hands while shallow you'd want PPs and A-high/K-high hands like BWs and PPs - and then just shove...hoping that logic is correct.

Obviously variance goes up in all cases.

You happened to get the maximum. You would've gotten the same amount if you would've played it well. It's all of the other hands that you would've gotten the minimum from which is what makes it bad.

The fact you don't see that is part of what's holding you back from improving.

Gave up on giving feedback in this dude’s thread a year ago for this reason. Not surprised to see nothing has changed.

Thanks your majesty. I am graced by your presence.

Uhm...

Look, you have to have a logically defensible reason for playing that AA hand the way you did, something more persuasive than, "I haz acez. Rip it in for an over 8x 3B."

V mucked. He might have had KK. Just a cooler, not necessarily proof you're inside his head.

I hope you were joking when you said you played it perfectly. You may have gotten the max from Monkey tilt guy, but you'll never know if you lost value from other Vs who may have cold called a normal sized 3B.

Say you 3B to $125. Maybe someone behind calls, or even better, 4Bs you. Monkey tilt jams, you re-jam. More value for your AA.

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Makes sense.

The AA hand is whatever. I wouldn't play it that way, but it worked.

This hand just call him down. Nothing else you can do.

Result:

So...non-results-based feedback?

Opening JTo on the BTN when this V straddles and there are a couple limpers is cuspy, if the limpers are competent and just want to be in pots with this guy.

V's donk-lead for 1/4 pot on flop is LOL. Nothing to do but call.

I think we can raise turn when V bets 1/2 pot and we make top pair to go with our ISSD, and the BDFD appears, especially when we have a d blocker. That turn bet sizing is suspect. We don't mind if he folds, and I think we'd prefer to have the betting lead going to the river, just to decrease the frequency of this guy barreling off on a gross runout.

I hate guessing what V has here. It would be good to have a little more history, particularly how he plays rivers when he gets there with his draws, or just runs into top pair/2P types of hands on super-wet boards like this. Does he typically bet huge, go for the check-raise, bet small, or is half pot his usual thing with both value and bluffs, or just one or the other?

While trying to bluff a tilted V can be suicidal, our hand actually has some good properties to raise as a bluff. If we stop and think about it, we're probably losing to enough of his value to consider it.

His most likely flushes are going to be Q-high, at best, and probably made a pair on the flop, so just 3 combos of Q9/Q7, maybe Q8 for the backdoor straight potential. Maybe he's also got some 9Xdd combos - four combos of 98/7/6/5.

Most of his KX should also have paired the flop, or at least the turn, or have some backdoor draws, so KJ (6 combos), KT (9), K9 (9) , K8 (12), K7 (9), K3 (9). He could have J9/J7/97 (21). He could also be chopping with JT (6). Plus he could have T8 for the straight (12 combos).

Obviously this guy isn't folding the 2nd nut flush, but if he's tilted, maybe there's some slim chance he levels himself into it, and he might not want to call off with the 4th nuts or a straight. But we'd really be trying to get him to fold his better 1P and some of his worst 2P combos.

Hard to know what total air this guy is playing this way, but let's say he's got some J8 (8 combos), some T9/98 (9 combos), some 87/76 (24 combos), some A3s (3 combos), and some random AXo with some board pair and the Ad when he donks flop and barrels off (6 combos).

We're getting 3:1 on a call, but I don't want to assume this guy has every one of the 50 combos of air or worse value, when he's got 100 combos of hands he could play this way that we lose to. If he's not betting worse than JT for value, then all we beat are his bluffs.

There's $275 in the pot and he's got $325 left. If we rip it in, and he folds the worst 45 of the 100 hands that beat us, jamming is going to be +EV.

ok thanks doc