QJs IP 3BP

I realize UK 1/1 games tend to play really loose, but I don't like calling a limp/3-bet with QJs at all. Maybe he wanted to spew it off, or maybe he wanted to lock down, but his hand was too good.

Flop call is fine. Turn raise is why. What draw do you put him on that will call a turn shove now but won't stab river if you flat and he misses? I hope for your sake he didn't fold his overpair, but I don't think you should have given him the chance, and I'm pretty sure he folded any AK or smaller pairs. If he had TT, oh well. Money was going in anyway.

Nice catch, but I still don't think it excuses the call pre.

So out of interest. What hands do we call with in this kind of situation AQ AJ ? what about 77,88 etc? if he his deeper say 200bb do we call JQs or would we prefer 67s,89s?

The preflop action is very confusing, although if the 3-bet is actually a LRR, I'm dumping QJs without giving it too much thought, especially at only 135BB deep.

Sorry yeah he limp raised. Same question as above though what would be your calling raise here at this stack depth. what depth would you want to be to call with JQs

Preflop was already a “click fold so hard you break your mouse” moment just showing us the action, you didn’t have to add the part that he was pulling chips out of his rack to make the l/rr

This is fundamentally the wrong question. This is the poker equivalent of “when someone shows you who they are, believe them.”

When someone takes a line they only take with the top 1% of hands, the challenge isn’t finding enough hands to call with that you’re unexploitable to bluffs. The challenge is not showing off to your neighbors how sick of a fold you’re making as you slide QQ into the muck.

The HH is not in the format we're used to, but as I read it, UTG starts with 135. Bets 20 pf, 15 flop, 40 turn. With 60 left and a pot of 123. Jamming gives V 3:1 on a call, and they've already stuck >1/2 their stack in.

That said, they're really not going to call off on the river, OP, if you wait 'til then? H has position, might as well use it.

Opening's fine, but definitely fold pre to a UTG limp / 4x 3! over 2 callers of H's open. Especially that shallow. Did V need to take out an ad in the Telegraph to tell everyone they've a 3% hand?

I'm not even sure I call flop. What are we praying for beyond a J? A diamond, which just gives us a draw? Maybe 9d? Q makes a straight for AK, which is like 1/2 the combos UTG should have. We just don't have a lot of outs here vs a premium.

Ill try to write the next post a bit more easier too read. Yeah I think I over though the pre flop call. I was assuming this was a pretty standard call. I think I called flop because of the prices and incase he turns up pre with AQ AK etc I didnt know the player very well and wasn't sure what he will Limp 3B pre. I agree though if turn doesn't improve my hand I will have to fold to the 40

Yeah I get what you mean. That's a good comment

Out of interest, did he announce he was only going to play another few hands before or after he looked down at his cards?

Perhaps more helpful answer:

The main factor for all of these hands is how wide villain’s range is. I would only continue with QJs if he had 5% of hands for this play. Same for AQo and 88.

For AJo, he would have be doing this with close to 15% of ATC for me to pure continue, which is like BTNvBlinds in an aggressive online 6m game territory.

AJs would be more like 3.5%.

98s- and 77- are complicated both because of odds and board coverage. You can kinda put odds aside for a 4x 3b of 20bbs for pretty much any stack depth. As for board coverage, it’s a function of first of all whether you care about mixing for board coverage reasons against a particular opponent, and then we’d have to get into some trade secrets I’m not going to divulge here for free to get into calcs and heuristics for that.

Before he was playing. He had mentioned it a couple of times in the last few hands as he had to leave. TBH a detail I just remembered as you said this was he limped blind.

bruh, you can't just drop a detail like this after I've already typed 10 paragraphs analyzing this and all similar hands for this situation.

If we were drawing to more than 2 jacks and a bunch of BD stuff, does raising this flop bet make sense? This smacks our open/call range more than UTG's likely 3-5%.

Idea is that, IP we can buy ourselves both turn and river. OOP V is probably going to x most turns, H x-back and we get to realize whatever equity we have on the flop. Plus, maybe V gets mubsy and we win on the flop.

AP though, I don't think we're deep enough/have enough IO.

Lol just saw the limped in the dark part. Ok, not a GG clone. I hate the pf call less then, though we still are awfully shallow. SPR's going to be low, even if the other callers don't call the 3!.

This is likely related to submersible's 10% pot bet tactic, but the small 3! annoys me enough to want to pile with a 4! Yes, that's dumb.

V has too small a stack to call preflop. Don't raise til river, and only if he doesn't put the rest of his stack in for you.

Stack's way too shallow to call limp 3b. You want stronger pairs to do that. As played, jam or call is fine. THink you had marginally more than $40 bet right

Yeah if I had to guess I’d say his range should be pretty tight here. So JQs will be too loose to make a call with the stack depth