KJs in SB 5/10/20
KJs in SB 5/10/20

KJs in SB 5/10/20

Playing in a 5/10 game with $20 straddle, a good TAG pro in UTG+1 comes in for $35. An unknown in the cutoff calls and it folds to you in the SB with KJs. Stacks are about 100 BB's. Is this a call or fold? If a fold, are you calling with KQs or AQo?

15 July 2020 at 06:48 AM
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With a strong TAG opening UTG+1 and a caller in between, KJs in the SB at ~100BB (effectively ~50BB if counting the straddle) is usually a fold or occasional 3-bet, calling OOP against strong ranges creates a strategic “range bottleneck” where your equity realization gets capped.

Just like a PC bottleneck limits performance when one part holds back the system, here your positional disadvantage becomes the bottleneck, restricting how well hands like KJs can realize their theoretical equity.


i dont play this high but at 100 bb deep i cant imagine doing anything but folding is a good idea.

also i have no idea what "Plays well multiway" means. i dont think there is a single hand in NL poker that plays well multiway, esp OOP. almost all the money is made HU in position.


Plays well multiway = more callers sweeten the pot for a speculative hand + when your hand hits the flop hard, you have a greater chance of stacking a good 2nd best hand.
Small pocket pairs, suited Ax and suited broadways fit the description.
Of course, being oop weakens your ability to fully cash in.


Interesting to see how the game's evolved over the years, isn't it? 50 straddles, I'm folding. OOP to a superior player is icing on the cake. And IMHO, the decision is between raising and folding. (Edit, as noted by the original necroposter.)


It’s a break your wrist snap fold with any nonpair hand except AKs.


It's a fold, but it's pretty close between all 3 options assuming we're 100 straddles deep (unclear in OP, as are many things.) Close enough it's worth a peak around the table and considering the opponents' respective leaks, especially the OR.

KQs is gonna be a pure 3b for me personally in these games and AQo is almost pure fold. If we're 100bbs (50 straddles) deep, then reverse that.

I think 99.9999999% of players are going to improve their decision accuracy by wholly eliminating CCs facing a a 3.5x open and call in the blinds with two left to act (honestly, take any 2 out of those 4 listed factors and you should probably give up on having a mixed strategy), but again I don't even think that would be a total torch with this hand at most tables.


I’m never calling KQs or AQo multiway with two players in the hand, one a pro. I would 3bet AQo if I thought pro would fold, and CO was a whale.


i doubt 3b is correct vs an UTG+1 open. 100 bb deep seems too shallow to do anything but fold esp OOP. im not looking to play pots OOP vs good players.


Hopefully OP can still use the advice, six years later.


KJs in solver land vs UTG is folding 40% of time and liking raise 4% more than call.

tbf im a nit so i fold

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