Mandatory bluff, or pure spew? KQs in 3-bet pot

Mandatory bluff, or pure spew? KQs in 3-bet pot

Blinds $1-$2, but game is $2-$100 spread-limit. I have $320, V covers.

HAND: UTG limps, a fold, I raise KsQs in EP to $12, an MP calls, and the Button 3-bets to $45. Folds to me. I make a call—I would fold if they were offsuit or if we were shallower. MP folds, heads-up.

FLOP: 9c5s2c (pot: $100, heads-up). I check, he checks.

TURN: 9c5s2c 7h (pot: $100, heads-up)

I lead for $75 because there’s no way a LLSNL player’s check-back range in a 3-bet pot will be anywhere near balanced enough for him to ever have an overpair here—yes? Or am I just donking it up as usual?

28 May 2024 at 05:36 PM
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Meehhh I forget the logic in 4-bet vs fold with KQs vs KQo deep vs shallow. Isnt it the opposite of what you said though? More shallow + offsuit = closer to a 4-bet jam while deeper your RIO becomes more of a factor?

I play a mixed approach here with KQs depending on the Vs involved. I 4bet more competent players (for value/balance), and fold more to fish. Having a caller behind is awkward as is the limit style. I think giving the limit its closer to a call but in NLHE its more of a fold or raise with maybe low frequency call ~15%.

OTF I think you have two options, bet like you have it to get A-high to fold, which is a significant part of Vs range. Or check/give-up. It depends a lot on the V for me. Someone that can read a board I'm okay with a x/raise boom boom line, but again, the limit handicaps you. Against 85% of my audience I x/fold unimproved here.


In theory, yes. But what if he calls you? Do you continue again? It’s a good price for him to call on the river.

I think you can check the turn and bet the river.

River: 95s2 7h 3 (pot: $100, heads-up)

Hero bets $80

River: 95s2 7h J or T (pot: $100, heads-up)

Hero bets $80

River: 95s2 7h 9 (pot: $100, heads-up)

Hero checks


by Bellezza k

In theory, yes. But what if he calls you? Do you continue again? It’s a good price for him to call on the river.

That’s one of the nice things about our goofy spread-limit game—since V’s odds on later streets will be so much better, you don’t have to follow through on stupid bluffs, they can just be a 1-street adventure, haha. (I had already decided that if he called the Turn I was giving up.)


by davomalvolio k

Blinds $1-$2, but game is $2-$100 spread-limit. I have $320, V covers.

HAND: UTG limps, a fold, I raise KsQs in EP to $12, an MP calls, and the Button 3-bets to $45. Folds to me. I make a call—I would fold if they were offsuit or if we were shallower. MP folds, heads-up.

FLOP: 9c5s2c (pot: $100, heads-up). I check, he checks.

TURN: 9c5s2c 7h (pot: $100, heads-up)

I lead for $75 because there’s no way a LLSNL player’s check-back range in a 3-bet pot will be anywhere near balanced enough for him to

RESULT: Villain tank-folded.


Meh. You stabbed and took it down. Maybe even ahead a shred of the time. I don't really know what to do because of the limit. At NL I could see a x x overbet line.


You’re blocking his folds and against you I would be checking back a lot of big hands. That said the fish probably has AK so stab away.

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