Wheel Ace flops premium and LP gets frisky, my line?

Wheel Ace flops premium and LP gets frisky, my line?

1/3 NLHE 8 handed.

H has been on a bit of a heater and is running over the table after just sitting down for a few orbits. Covers V from CO.

V - LP I have very few hours with. 300$ HJ.

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Two leempos including V, I go 15 with A 2, only V calls, HU IP.

Flop 30 - A 8 2

V x, H bets 10, V x/r to 30, H calls.

Turn 90 (255 back) - 5

V x, H x

River 90 - 4

V x, H bets 125...

03 June 2024 at 05:00 AM
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Oooh as played I adore the River bet (perfect runout for an overbet), but I’m not sure why you’re checking the Turn here. Look like a clear value bet spot.


I would limp behind. I would cbet larger, despite the solver-influenced small cbet trend. When you overbet the river, you are representing a straight. Hard for you to have a straight. Did you raise limpers with a 3? That might help you get called though. However, I would not overbet.


Very strange line by V. What thick value is he repping on the flop that gives up and checks turn? What would his bluffs be? I would suspect that V raised flop with some random Ax, or even possibly 8x trying to see if you have the ace.

Ordinarily, when I get check raised on flop and checked to again on turn, I assume V is giving up, so I'll bluff, or bet some vulnerable value hands for protection. Here, I might bet around 2/3 pot, because of the BDFD and straight draws on board. We could be protecting TP+ or on a draw, so V should continue with some good bluff catchers.

My thinking is if he check raised flop it was probably with weak value that won't want to just give up, because of how exploitable that would be. He just wants to get to showdown now. He may have check raised flop just to freeze us from barreling turn.

Not sure, but I think I like the river over-bet with a de-polarized range. V could have some Ax that hero-calls. I think we get here with a lot of hands that feel compelled to bluff, and we won't have all that many straights or 2P+.

Doubtful he'd check turn with 2P+ when the BDFD appears. It's not like 43 makes up a huge chunk of our range here.

Unless he ran into a straight or better 2P on the river with A3/A4, both of which would be really optimistic flop x/r's, I'd think our hand is good, and we can get value from some of his Ax, now that the flush draw missed.


I just value bet the turn when checked to you.


Agree with betting the turn. Everything else is fine. However, I might just value bet the river, too, instead of betting something that's going to be hard for him to call w/ AX, unless you have been caught bluffing or been so active that he doesn't believe you.


I could go either way preflop (probably mostly leaning overlimp) but whatever.

Think I'm fine with the flop.

Weird turn spot, imo. I would typically not want to setup a play for stacks against all but the most clueless of flop check/raisers. So I'm ok with check back. ETA: Admittedly I'm looking at this saddled with my super nitty image; if stacks go in, my 2 pear isnt't good, so I'm cool guaranteeing I get one more street from Ax unless the guy is a moran; OP is probably not saddled with same image I have.

Think I'm ok with a largish bet on the river but I'm not so sure about an overbet (I mean, we do want a call).

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Bizarre line from Villain.

I like a bet/fold on River, but I don't understand the big bet. We want a call from his A9o or whatever, and we want to get away cheaply when he was doing something weird with A8. I think I go 50-60.

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