$1/2 Line Check with a Suited Connector

IF I call pre (which is almost never), I raise flop, and probably fold to a jam.

raise turn. you are almost never behind vs this action. shoving is probably best.

pre is bad.

as played fold river to V2's obviously better hand.

Everything is fine except the Turn, which you should be jamming for value and denial. If you just call there are a ton of rivers that will make you lose what’s at this point a 75BB pot.

Raising the flop is pretty bad, since this is a fantastic board for an EP raiser (he has KK/QQ/KQ). You’re right to just call.

Don't get involved with weak suited connectors from bad position. Even if the table is weak it's still pretty sketchy and you'll need to be prepared to surf the waves of RIO variance.

Flop call is fine. When the preflop raiser just calls the turn donk then this looks less like a big hand and more like AA/AK so yes a raise looks in order (although don't be surprised to lose from time to time, and I don't think your call was criminal). River is an easy fold, you're up against a flush and a set

Jamming turn happily. Folding river.

Stop calling PF. Not because you risk getting squeezed. You are in poor relative position on the flop. After the PFR acts, you have 3 players yet to take action after you.

This hand almost perfectly shows why these types of hands are trash multiway, esp. without position.

HU you have a lot of options on the flop, raise to various sizes or just call.
Four ways your hand just sucks, pair is trash; flush draw is trash; and hitting 2 pair/trips isn't that great unless someone doesn't believe you.
15 into 25 is pretty big multiway, and you really need to get folds but raising is probably bad but after the two calls behind you your hand is probably close to 0 EV.

Pre: 3bet pre. is better than call. But just fold.

Flop: Sigh call, but in the worst 1-2 reg. fish way.

Turn: Shove and hope.

Look at how you didn’t feel good about raising at any point in the hand before you had to fold 2 pair on the river. Then in the future, fold this preflop.

I literally never play these hands. I guess that's why I was so confused through the hand. I expanded my pre-flop range because NO ONE was ever 3-betting, the pre-flop raises were tiny, and people were playing really poor postflop. Plus, I was getting hit with the deck. So, maybe a little winner's tilt.

3 times in the session, I flopped a pair plus FD. Two of the them I c/rd the flop. This one I didn't because it was very multi-player and I had almost zero FE for the field.

Jamming the turn was my biggest question. Are you jamming turn for value? Are you jamming to get value from AK/KJ type hands? It just seemed like the likelihood of being against a higher two pair was too great.

Yeah....I guess fold pre avoids everything.

The best takeaway you should get from this hand is to fold pre.

Whether we raise or call the turn isn't as important as folding pre to begin with.

These aren't reasons to expand your preflop calling range to low suited connectors. Low suited connectors have big RIO problems. Like if someone enters the pot behind you with some junk like J7s, that hurts you when you're considering playing 54s. (It helps when you have A4s though, which is a hand I'd much rather have in your spot.) Basically my rule for small cards facing a raise is that I only play the suited version if I would also play the offsuit version. I make exceptions. sometimes but on my A game I often fold both.

Obviously 54s is way better than 54o, but I wouldn't play either in these games. 54s might be decent to raise or 3! with late in tournaments to steal or resteal and have a disguised hand HU.

Yeah 54s plays terribly multiway, and you can see why here. Fold pre. As played, you probably played it right, but you basically hit as hard as possible and still had to fold.

You could've 3bet MP v EP preflop, since EP is tight passive, allowing you to take advantage of position, but only if you're heads-up: so, you're only considering a 3bet preflop if you're confident those behind are not overcalling. If you're not 3betting preflop then just fold.

As played raise turn.

We absolutely should not be 3 betting a tight players ep raise with 54s from mp. even though i much prefer 54 HU, its probably an even bigger error.

You and the V's are deep enough to call pre, but folding in MP at a loose table is fine.

Calling flop is fine.

Gotta jam turn.

AP, gotta fold river.

Assuming we did jam river, and got called, and would have lost at showdown, demonstrates why these lower suited connectors don't play as well post flop and multi-way. We're mostly looking to smash the flop with 54s, not play a big pot with bottom 2P + a flush draw on a two Broadway board.

V2 shoved with Ac7c for the backdoor nutflush
V1called him with 54o.

So, we were ahead on the turn, but I don't think V2 is folding the nut flush draw to a shove.

It wouldn't surprise me if he called a turn jam with just the NFD. But the way this was played, he only has $56 in the pot when action gets to you, so he could find a fold with only almost $200 behind. When V1 donks out of the small blind, V2 calls, and you then jam $200 into $150, you look pretty nutted. If he knows his pair outs are no good, and that he needs to make his flush, he might release.

How many Ac were in the deck?

Fold pre.

My best guess is flop and turn are both raises, but if I were confident what to do here I'd be crushing higher stakes. Don't sweat it that you're not playing these spots perfectly.

River has to be an easy fold if you're going anywhere in poker, though.

Sorry they somehow both showed up with worse hands...

That result makes no sense. Ac hit the river.