AQ in a 3-bet pot, Turn decision when overcard hits. And exposed cars drama!
Game is $2-$100 spread-limit—max you can raise is &100 over the previous bet. My stack is $270, V covers.
HAND: V opens UTG with a min-raise to $4, a call, I 3-bet to $20 with AhQc in MP. Button cold-calls, UTG calls, EP caller calls again.
FLOP: QdJc5h (pot: $80, 4-ways). BB checks. UTG V leads for $18. EP folds. We raise to $80. Button folds but in doing so accidentally exposes his hand of AsJs. UTG V calls.
TURN: QdJc5h Ks (pot: $240, heads-up)
UTG V checks. We have $170 behind.
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Check.
I’m scared of what you’re considering doing…
Check. KQ just got there
That's a horrible turn card, especially considering your main villain is the one who opened from UTG then flatted a 3bet (and flatted a psb raise otf too). I would check and if he bets the river pretty much be convinced we're beat.
Every flop draw beats you.
HAND: V opens UTG with a min-raise to $4, a call, I 3-bet to $20 with AhQc in MP. Button cold-calls, UTG calls, EP caller calls again.
FLOP: QdJc5h (pot: $80, 4-ways). BB checks. UTG V leads for $18. EP folds. We raise to $80. Button folds but in doing so accidentally exposes his hand of AsJs. UTG V calls.
TURN: QdJc5h Ks (pot: $240, heads-up)
UTG V checks. We have $170 behind.
RESULT: Yeah I sure thought I misplayed this one.
At the time, while I obviously knew the King was horrible for my specific hand, what I was thinking was “this is a GREAT card for my RANGE.” I mean—when I 3-bet pre and then raise this flop, I’m gonna have AA, KK, QQ, JJ, KQ, AQ and maybe AK and AT for bluffs. AQ is really the only hand that hates this card (though AA isn’t thrilled). So I figured, a card that’s good for my range, I ought to bet it, so I bet $100 into $240.
Villain shoves. I obviously call my last $70 (I’m getting 7:1) but he flips over a really bad for me to see, T9o for the straight.
River is a Ten because I tip the dealers well.
But yes…this Turn bet by me is atrocious. Will basically never fold out better, and the only reasonable worse hand that could call it is QT (or JT), but that’s a way smaller portion of his range than all the T9 and KT and KQ. Really really stupid bet by me—if ever there was a time to raise the flop and check the Turn, it’s here.
This is a spot where a little knowledge is dangerous.
For what very little it is worth, in a 5/T game with deep enough stacks once the board gets this heavy, you should be turning some BWSD + a pair into a bluff. These are generally understood to be underbluffed spots and so you will (eventually, when you move high enough in the stakes) get more folds than you should. AQ might be a little too high in your range to turn into a bluff, but the exposed cards give you extra incentive to bluff BUT-BUT the exposed card drama will make perceptive live players put a giant asterisk on their priors about what spots are underbluffed and suddenly get more suspicious of you trying to rep cards that are in the muck.
Every other factor here makes this a nightmare spot to bluff, though--not the least of which being that it's spread limit. People's leak is that they don't adjust enough to the relative hand strength of a board this heavy, so you exploit that by value betting lighter and bluffing a lot less. (Which is the very reason why it starts to become an underbluffed spot as you move up...)
What is BWSD?
Broadway straight draw. Sorry, I don’t know if that’s an actually term people use outside of my own personal notes lol
