2/5 overplay on flop
Quick question on whether this was an overplay
8 handed.
UTG open $15.
Two callers, Hero in CO calls 6h5h
Folds to BB 3! to $50.
Fold, Fold,
Hero ($415) calls. Pot $145
This is a little loose for me but this is one of the fantastic four and I've been folding a lot so I may be able to use my perceived image to steal.
BB is a solid Asian player in late 20 early 30. I haven't seen him squeeze lite OOP.
Flop: 5d6s7s.
BB bets $100.
Pot $245
Hero ($375). Is this a standard All-in or call or mix vs perceived range?
10 Replies
Crazy to see such a small 3-bet squeeze get the opener & 2 other callers to fold. We should fold preflop to the 3-bet TBH.
I jam all in on flop. BB is willing to put in big action here & now once he's bet $100. If you just call, a lot of turn cards can kill our hand or our action (Any spade, 3,4,7,8,9, perhaps a K/A if V has like QQ or JJ). It's nowhere close to an overplay.
Pre is bad both times and rip it now
The first call pre is very borderline in a raked game. If you have an edge postflop it should be winning a tiny bit. 3bet is fine too. Honestly I would like both plays more if you had 100-200bb on the table and I would always aim to have at least that much, top off as needed.
After villain 3bets a pitiful amount and we are heads up we can't fold with all the dead money closing the action.
You say villain hasn't squeezed light OOP, but what is he doing postflop? Cbetting every board even if he whiffs? Cbetting sometimes?
Unless villain is way underbluffing and just always going have a value hand you beat that will call off (or a flush draw), I think jamming is actually a mistake to the tune of a few big blinds. At this SPR in position we just don't need to force the money in, we can get it in on the turn.
In spite of action killing turns, you want to keep in his hands like AKo, AQo, perhaps with a spade. At this spr a spade rolling off doesn't necessarily kill the action, especially considering he may bluff single spade hands or even value bet single spade hands with an overpair. Even a 4 liner he may call off light if the flush doesn't come in since he may think you could have a flush draw.
The first call pre is very borderline in a raked game. If you have an edge postflop it should be winning a tiny bit. 3bet is fine too. Honestly I would like both plays more if you had 100-200bb on the table and I would always aim to have at least that much, top off as needed.
After villain 3bets a pitiful amount and we are heads up we can't fold with all the dead money closing the action.
You say villain hasn't squeezed light OOP, but what is he doing postflop? Cbetting every board even if he
Post flop V will Cbet on various textures and he has always had it* whenever he went to showdown. Obviously in a live game the sample size is going to be too small just because we soo so few hands per hour.
*Over/Top pair dense. Broadway sets.
Thanks for the response.
UPDATE: I shoved.
Villain had easy call with AsKs.
PRE - mostly fold. Occasionally 3B. Flat call at a low frequency. As played, we have to call when the other two opponents fold to us.
FLOP - I don't hate a jam or a flat call. I'd lean towards a jam.
Preflop, fold initially. Fold > 3! > call. Call of 3! is correct with 3.3-1 immediate pot odds and position. Shove flop.
I don't hate preflop though would prefer to be a little deeper if going down to 54 suited.
Vill's small 3-bet is a little odd and it's even more interesting that it drove out the initial utg raiser and the other callers. However - we're getting a great price and have position - so don't hate calling.
Flop - shove. This hits your range more than villain and villain c-bet anyway. Vill likely has an over pair or spade draw and I want to get the money in before any scare cards come off on the turn.
Fold pre the first time. After the CC closing the action calling is ok.
Jam flop before the board gets scary for both of you.