KQs out of position in a straddled pot

KQs out of position in a straddled pot

1-3 NL at the Aria

It's late on a Thursday night and the tables haven't been great (relatively tight). I'm on my third table change and only a couple rotations in so no real reads to go on.

7 players

Stacks:
Hero (BB) $260. A couple hands ago, I raised from MP and was called by the player to my left, led two streets and check-called the river on a KQJxx board, and villain showed KK for the flopped set and I mucked. I'm likely on tilt from hands earlier in the night, but the players at this table wouldn't have seen my other hands.
MP >$1000. He's currently getting a massage and is talking like he's very comfortable playing poker, possibly a regular.
CO (Villain) ~$300 but I can't see his stack clearly. No read.

Hero has K Q

UTG straddles to $6, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $30, UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds.

3 players
Pot: $103
Flop: 8 6 5

Hero bets $70
MP leans over and asks, "Do you want me to call?" Hero remains silent. MP folds after a few seconds.
CO raises to $175
Hero...?

Feedback on all prior action is also welcomed!

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04 September 2024 at 07:44 PM
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With your stack I would just call pre, but that's just me (you have under 85 BB's). If I'm raising I woulda raised more to around 45 if I had a bigger stack.

I call the flop raise since we have only 160 left and the pots 280 with two overs and the 2nd NFD. It would suck if he has a NFD since we lose to ace high if we don't hit and we lose to a flush if we hit. We have outs against tens, jacks, sets and two pair.


make it $50 pre to either win dead money or get HU and set up an easy bet flop/shove turn scenario

i also dislike betting flop into so many players on a board like this. i definitely wouldnt bet big.

as played just call, raising seems pointless to me


we can't raise we can only call for less


by Playbig2000 k

With your stack I would just call pre, but that's just me (you have under 85 BB's). If I'm raising I woulda raised more to around 45 if I had a bigger stack.

I call the flop raise since we have only 160 left and the pots 280 with two overs and the 2nd NFD. It would suck if he has a NFD since we lose to ace high if we don't hit and we lose to a flush if we hit. We have outs against tens, jacks, sets and two pair.

by NittyOldMan1 k

make it $50 pre to either win dead money or get HU and set up an easy bet flop/shove turn scenario

i also dislike betting flop into so many players on a board like this. i definitely wouldnt bet big.

as played just call, raising seems pointless to me

by Playbig2000 k

we can't raise we can only call for less

by _TKO_ k

Stacks:
Hero (BB) $260.

Hero has K Q

UTG straddles to $6, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $30, UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds.

3 players
Pot: $103
Flop: 8 6 5

Hero bets $70
MP leans over and asks, "Do you want me to call?" Hero remains silent. MP folds after a few seconds.
CO raises to $175

I'm so confused. Hero started the hand with $260. He has $160 left AFTER he bets $70. Why would he call a raise to $175 leaving $55 behind?


Call if you have less and raise if you have 55 more left.


You could just shove pre lol


Your raise pre is entirely too small and this is a terrible board to c-bet vs. two players that limped for $6 and then called $30.


We're playing 45BB deep, not 85, with the straddle on.

You could complete if the straddle isn't overly aggressive. Probably my preferred option. But if you raise, don't make it only 5x over four limps. Make it 40-50 (and someone mentioned jamming, this isn't a terrible idea over all these lumps with this stack depth).

On a bigger raise and tidier SPR you could cheerfully jam this flop, but the situation you're in is very awkward. I'd probably start with a check. Now you're in the worst of all worlds OOP facing a small raise without stack depth.


I don't think any of us are experts on how to play <50bbs deep, but 2/3p OOP does still seem too small.

Flop bet is questionable and size is definitely a no thanks for me.

AP with just $160 behind and a chance to win $600, you're getting direct odds on the 2NFD alone so gotta roll with it. You're not deep enough to flat flop and fold turn, so you might as well just GII now.


I probably go slightly larger preflop to setup that much more of a comfortable stack off with TP+ postflop. Also more cool with taking it down preflop thanks to being up against a tight line-up and OOP.

SPR is a little over 2. With 2 overs + 2nd nut flush draw and OOP, think I'd lean to a check/jam to add some FE to our hand equity. If it checks around, no biggee, we're fine getting a free card.

As played, flop raises are just so nuttish here, so prolly a sigh fold. ETA: Shoulda mathed first, looks like we have $160 left and could win $403, so odds are there at this point (although definitely not the best way to get there, imo).

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Grunch:

PRE - raise bigger, at least to $50, if not $60. We don't really want to go six ways to the flop with less than 2 SPR.

FLOP - I probably just check, not c-bet. If someone stabs at it, maybe we put in a check-raise. Otherwise, if the flop checks through, we might make a delayed c-bet on the turn.

As played, you put in $100 off a $260 stack. I think we either jam, or fold and re-load, or fold and go home.


What doc wrote.

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