KK - 700 effective 1/3 w/ $6 button straddle

KK - 700 effective 1/3 w/ $6 button straddle

So villian is a mid late 30 female, european. She seems to play a ton and i think is decent, tho i have seen some questionable plays. Onky thjng is i can really remember them lol. But for most part decent, however she seems tilted, her stack has gone from 1700 to 7-8 last 2 orbits.

i’m sb with KK, i raise to $30 (button straddle starts at sb) , folds to villain in MP who flats, rest fold.

FLOP 723r ($69)
hero cbet $35, villain calls

Turn 7x ($139)
77 was the only hand i gave her beating me…i guess sometimes 22-33 if she crazy titled which could be the case.

hero bets $125 with roughly 400 behind. after a long tank villain jams like wtf??? easy call even without the tilt factor? seems like no hand that’s beating me wants to jam here in postion.

21 October 2024 at 09:37 PM
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Have you ever seen her bluff or semi bluff all in at all? How'd she lose her money during the past two orbits? These are the types of plays where reads can easily sway you one way or the other.

Basically if we were readless, the long tank then jam is usually a good made hand especially after she flatted a big raise pre from MP, so I don't think she's likely doing it with 7x unless it's quads, dueces or threes. I woulda bet less ott but that's just me (if we're folding to a raise).


If we're trying to level up and play ranges not hands then I think this is a UTG range check flop vs. MP flat. They have more middling pocket pairs than you and this board is too dry for either player to have anything. As played you are basically playing a large pocket pair face up since you bet big on flop and turn. It doesn't matter against most low stakes players even regs but it is definitely exploitable. Then when you get to the turn you're both already repping monsters? Seems like a never fold spot but you are probably not ahead. I probably check flop but once I bet flop then I'm betting big turn and calling the jam hoping they have JJ/QQ/etc


by shynepo3 k

So villian is a mid late 30 female, european. She seems to play a ton and i think is decent, tho i have seen some questionable plays. Onky thjng is i can really remember them lol. But for most part decent, however she seems tilted, her stack has gone from 1700 to 7-8 last 2 orbits.

So this hand depends entirely on the read. Your description reads more like person on a dating app whom I would ask out if I was 25 years younger: 30, female, European, plays a lot, lost her large stack. These details are mostly irrelevant. The relevant details are non-specific, non-concrete, hesitating: “questionable plays… for the most part decent…seems tilted.” Crucial is how aggressive, how tight, and above what hole cards played from various positions. What makes you think she’s on tilt: did she throw the chips, curse a player, huff and puff about a hand ten minutes ago? Of course, if you get her phone number, and went on a date, you would be far ahead of any pro in getting the intimate details about the hands she plays. 😆

by Playbig2000 k

The long tank then jam is usually a good made hand especially after she flatted a big raise pre from MP.

I’m inclined to agree with Playbig about the tank-jam. A tight player always has the goods here. However, if she made questionable plays and is now on tilt, I call. As you suggest, only 77 really makes sense, but there’s only one single combo left. If she calls preflop with 22 and 33, she plays too wide. If she rarely 3bets but spews when on tilt, she could very well be jamming with TT-QQ, even AK. It all depends on the read.


Hmmm. That's a tough one. She could have A7, 76, 87, etc., especially if she's tilted. She could also have 88, 99, TT, JJ? Such a table read. I'd probably call at the table, but from my computer I want to fold.


by adonson k

So this hand depends entirely on the read. Your description reads more like person on a dating app whom I would ask out if I was 25 years younger: 30, female, European, plays a lot, lost her large stack. These details are mostly irrelevant. The relevant details are non-specific, non-concrete, hesitating: “questionable plays… for the most part decent…seems tilted.” Crucial is how aggressive, how tight, and above what hole cards played from various positions. What makes y

OP started with just under 600. SB in this position should be opening phenomenally tight. An open to 30 still gives 20-1 IO to set mine against H's blindingly obvious big pair/AK. So I think V can easily have 22-33-77 here.

H has put in ~1/3 of their stack with nearly potting the turn and V just boated. IP, I wouldn't jam if I were V---H seems happy to keep firing with 5x open, 60% flop and like 90% turn, so why get in their way? But Vs do.

264 in pot + 525 ship and we need to put in 400 to call. Do we have 33% against all of the sets and V's bluffs? Not sure we do. I fold this.


I limp in but that's my style.

SPR is 10 and board is drawless so I definitely don't want to play for stacks with just one pear. At this SPR and OOP we have to be careful not to put ourselves in a tricky commitment spot especially against someone who could put us there. So I'd probably start out with a flop check. If betting I'd go way smaller.

I have no idea why we think it is crazy for 33/22 to be in her preflop range; I actually think it is crazy to think it isn't. And a tilted loose villain could easily have some random 7x in her range. Along with all my flop thinking, I'd mostly check here. Facing the raise really sucks and gets us in the spot we didn't want to be in (of playing for all our chips with one pear). Has she been blasting off chips with air? Massively overvalueing worse hands? Otherwise this is a dumb spot we should be attempting to avoid postflop, imo.

Ghaveabetterplan,imoG


I need to write things down, because while i can remember them at the table, once i get home the details are foggy when im not involved especially.

In the hand, i felt like she never jams anything that beats me. Only hands that would be jamming would be for protection, which i beat all. I bet big on the turn to setup a slight overbet river jam, hoping she had 88-QQ.

I guess i butchered this hand, but it worked out, she had QJcc for the stone cold bluff vs my perceived AK lol? She rivered a J after the money went in (she turned it over with enthusiasm before i showed my KK).

thanks for replies, still learning!

ps I should ask her why she jammed. I guess maybe she thought why would i bet so big when I have like no 7x or 22/33 in my range...but thing was i only gave her 77 and no 22/33 as well. Had she called the turn, and river was a blank, i still prob jam and pray she has 88-QQ.


Hey OP, results? Did you make a disciplined fold?


by adonson k

Hey OP, results? Did you make a disciplined fold?

look above LOL

edit - i just read your post about the dating app, i’m dying LOL


I'm mostly checking range from OOP on the flop, with the intention of check raising fairly often. As played on flop, I'd check turn to let her stab at it.

As played on flop and turn, I don't know if I could get away from my hand here, but I might be able to find a rage-fold. Seems like we over-played our hand, and ran into a monster. Just so few obvious bluffs in her range, and seems unlikely she'd take this line with total air, given how much strength we've shown.

And I'm saying all this after seeing the reveal. Even knowing she had air. It's not going to happen often enough in this scenario to make me feel great about calling. I'm expecting to see trips or better more often than not, given the action here.

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