1-2 nl 400 max. Nit 4bet jams for 700. does this mean Aces?
I was playing one night at a seven handed table. This particular hand I'm in the big blind with about $700. UTG straddles with over a $900 stack. UTG+1 calls with about 300 cutoff (who is an action player, the kind that likes to gamble and rebuys often) calls with a lil over $200. Button with only $70 dollars calls. Gotta love all the live limping. I have A10of and decide to bump it up to $30. I only get three callers. The button decides to shove for his $70. I thought this put me in a difficult situation. If i call here no one will fold, plus someone is likely to raise off (mostly likely the player in the cutoff). With A10 off I dont want to play with small stp ratio or go to war for stacks pre. The straddle is my biggest worry since he has me covered. I've played for hours and I dont want to lose the $300 i've won so far.
I also realized that the button is weak since he didn't raise when it was on him. The other players called the five then called the thirty, I didn't think they were strong either. So I took a deep breath and called all in. The remaining players fold. The HJ tanked and showed pocket 4s first. But I'm left with the Button who had K6off and $90 of dead money in the pot. Seems like a good spot for me to be in. I was patting myself for playing well and making a bold move after correctly reading that my opponents were weak.
The flop comes KQJ. I flopped the straight! I would have made more money if I had just flatted and let everyone stay in. What luck.
So what does everyone think of my play here? Did I make the right play? Could I have won more by flatting? would I have been raised out by flatting?
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Just complete. You've got a whole rage of stack sizes. Your isonis unlikely to knock out all the limpers and then you'll be stuck OOP with ATo and probably very little manoeuvrebility. You could also just fold.
You "only" get three callers? If I'm not mistaken, that's two of the limpers plus the straddle, so your raise knocked out nobody, but added the straddle into the mix. Now you face a short stack jam with a player who covers you in there. This is a terrible spot for you.
Your post is very confusing - you say the HJ showed 44 and folded but isn't listed as one of the original limpers. In addition you say you called all in - I think you mean you rejammed but that's not clear at all.
In any event I would now fold, with a preference for rejamming over calling. It would be frustrating to risk the rejam only to discover that the button had AJo all along.
The flop is completely irrelevant.
Just complete. You've got a whole rage of stack sizes. Your isonis unlikely to knock out all the limpers and then you'll be stuck OOP with ATo and probably very little manoeuvrebility. You could also just fold.
You "only" get three callers? If I'm not mistaken, that's two of the limpers plus the straddle, so your raise knocked out nobody, but added the straddle into the mix. Now you face a short stack jam with a player who covers you in there. This is a terrible spot for you.
Your post is very co
It's 40 more to call over our initial 30 now and btn probably has some BS hand. Definitely cannot fold.
I think jamming is fine, this gets through 95% of the time. You can also go 150-200 and fold if the 900 effective player somehow rejams.
Title Grunch - yes it means aces.
hey, sorry I didn't realize how many mistakes I made while posting this or how confusing it was. I hope I can make things lil more clear here.
You "only" get three callers?
This was meant to be sarcasm. I wanted to thin the field and it didn't work.
If I'm not mistaken, that's two of the limpers plus the straddle, so your raise knocked out nobody, but added the straddle into the mix. Now you face a short stack jam with a player who covers you in there. This is a terrible spot for you.
. I didn't like this situation either. I was expecting people to comment about my raise size. $30 is a lot for a 1-2 game. But was this enough to chase people out? What if I go bigger and get called? How bad is that?
Your post is very confusing - you say the HJ showed 44 and folded but isn't listed as one of the original limpers
This was a typo here. I typed HJ when I meant cutoff. I don't know if the player changed seats mid hand or if I just have HJ on the brain, jk.
In any event I would now fold, with a preference for rejamming over calling. It would be frustrating to risk the rejam only to discover that the button had AJo all along.
If my math is correct there is $190 in the pot and $40 for me to call. It seems to me that pot odds would make it difficult to fold here, but calling has its problems to. Frustrating if Button is stronger than me, But also Im only putting in 40 more effectively with $90 of dead money if everyone folds. wouldn't the Button had raised the first time if he was strong? like Mlark said
btn probably has some BS hand
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In addition you say you called all in - I think you mean you rejammed but that's not clear at all.
Sorry this was a linguistic error. I should have typed I took a deep breath and shoved or I took a deep breath and said "all in". It took a lot of courage to make this move. I normally don't play this way. This was the first time I went all in for a large amount without aces or kings.
It's 40 more to call over our initial 30 now and btn probably has some BS hand. Definitely cannot fold.
I think jamming is fine, this gets through 95% of the time
This was exactly what I was thinking. This was the kind of atta boy I was looking for in this post.
You can also go 150-200 and fold if the 900 effective player somehow rejams.
. I thought this would be more dangerous than just shoving. Your opinions?
Title Grunch - yes it means aces.
a lil bit of click bait here with what was supposed to be a twist in the post that I wasn't clear about. But I was the nit. Normally I'm this nittiest player at the table. I've been considering changing my play style and image. But there are a lot of reasons why I don't want to. I'm winning as is (about 16BB per hour). Is it worth loosening up at these stakes? I'm not sure if I'm a good enough player to try a looser style. Seems like you need to be better at player and hand reading for a loose style to work. Do players fold enough at this stake for this to work? I was hoping people would opine on this.
FaceplantWizzard nittiest grandma poker player at low stakes signing off.
twitcherroo wrote
Title Grunch - yes it means aces.
But I didn't have Aces. I had Ace 10 off
