Pocket Jacks facing river all-in bet on a low board in 4-bet pot

This is a snap fold unless hes playing like an 80% range like this, and the 99 vs TT hand doesnt indicate that.

Also the minraise cold 4 bet is a weird sizing and JJ over a btn 3 bet over an UTG raise is maybe like the very bottom of your value range. Like GTO outright folds JJ in that spot most of the time. Im not suggesting you fold, but you could, especially if V isnt 3 betting that often.

Idve checked turn, and calling vs folding turn if he bets would be close and based on sizing.

Preflop: I like the 4b or fold against a V who can be 3b wide on BTN here. That said, we have to treat him as uncapped when he calls closing the action.

Flop: I'm confused about eff stack. If H is eff stack at 230 preflop, the play here is check or jam. There's ~80 (after rake, perhaps the rake is off 5-handed so maybe 86) in the pot. Betting 25 sets up turn with ~130 and 165 behind. This doesn't leave much room on the turn.

AP turn: pot is ~130 and we bet 90 leaving 75 behind. We don't accomplish much. I think we have to jam or check here. I prefer to jam and fold his AK/AQ and hope he calls with 88-TT.

AP river: we have 75 behind and pot is ~310. We get 5-1 to call. Our poor sizing has set this up. I suppose he's bluffing often enough to call but it's a horrible spot.

I don't know that I would call this a "low board" as much as I would call it a "one-liner" board.

Agree with the posters above me that 1.) pre-flop sizing is weird and 2.) turn sizing is also weird. You don't want to set up these awkward situations for yourself. If you make it bigger pre, it's very easy to get this all in on the turn. As played, I might sigh call and hope he is clicking buttons again, as he appeared to be doing in the TT v 99 hand.

It's much better if you put pot size on each street and just write what you bet. You will probably get more replies, too.

If Spanishmoon's math is correct (I'm sure it is, and I'm too lazy to figure it out), then just jam the turn. As played, call river although it sucks.

I would think by the way he played it he has a PP and not AK/Ax.

I call as played even though his PP might be alil bigger.

Sorry folks, it seems like I got the bet sizing wrong in the original post. My memory somehow failed me well when I first started writing this post.

Here's the updated action line with pot size:

(Pot: 88)
Flop is 233 rainbow. Hero c bet 0.16 pot. Villain call.

(Pot: 118)
Turn is 4. Hero bet 60% pot, villain call.

(Pot: 260)
River is 5. Hero checks. Villain shoves.

You bet .16 of the pot? Just put $$$ -- so much easier.

This feels like a pretty easy fold. What is in his 3 bet/call range that doesn't beat us that he still jams river with? Not much, possibly TT if we are lucky.

oops missed the odds. I guess crying call is OK, but at best we are good here 25% of the time.

Hero also checked the river to him after betting the other streets, so it can open him up to bluffing to represent the straight that hero seems concerned about. If hero bet the river and he raised, I wouldn't be calling so easily but that's just me.

True, but he 3 bet/called, and when I look at that range, there's not a lot we beat.

Edited OP to hopefully cut down on the confusion. What were you trying to accomplish with your pre-river actions? Bet sizes seem all over the place.

AP, since we only have 19% of the final pot left in our stack, IDK that we can fold, even though the vast majority of his range was either ahead of us all along or got there OTR with AX. But I think this mostly went wrong OTF, where our bet seems to be relatively meaningless, and OTT where our bet seems to have been unintentionally committing. Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of an OOP min-click 4-bet with JJ either.

Raise to 60 pre, bet 1/3 on flop. That makes for an easy turn jam. Make the game easy when possible, as opposed to this horrible river spot we found.

Thank you all for your responses!

This hand as played, hero made the call on the river. Villain shows 68s and wins the pot. I did ask him why he would call a 4 bet with 68s, and he said it got mixed in to help balance his call 4 bet range.

In retrospect, I made two mistakes in this hand. One, I was not paying attention to the SPR, and got myself into awkward decision spots. Two, as a consequence of mistake one, the flop bet didn't achieve much, as commented by Garick, and the turn bet got ourselves committed to the pot while leaving too few chips behind, putting ourselves in very uncomfortable river situations.

Don’t ask fish why they’re playing like fish.

Ha, I'd just congratulate on his brilliant play.

OP - Not trying to be patronizing, but I want to call you out as a noob poster who follows the unwritten conventions here, in particular clear posts, not revealing results until after discussion has run its course, and actually acknoweledging what you learned. Continue that and you will continue to receive respect from the old timers here.

Shame on me for not thinking 68s is in his range...

To be fair, I don't think that villain can fold anything to a pre-flop minraise in position. The big question should be why he is putting in a 7x 3b with that hand, haha. The flop and turn calls are also... ambitious.