A very simple hand at $1/$3. Raise 3rd set or nah?

A very simple hand at $1/$3. Raise 3rd set or nah?

$1/$3
First hand dealt at the table. No reads!
Hero has $500 in front of him. Everyone covers.

MP raises to $15, Button calls, SB calls, I call in BB w/88

Flop ($60): 89J
x, x, pfr bets $30, fold, fold, i call or raise?

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02 December 2024 at 06:13 AM
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3 bet preflop to like $85 and take it down. As played im fine with either line, and if he barrels a blank turn in also fine with a call or raise.

Ill also say i tend to have plenty of first impressions of players before even being dealt the first hand personally, but whatever,


Not a good hand to 3! OOP with. Prefer to see a flop 4 ways.


Vs an unknown I prefer to check call or lead small. There are quite a few hands that beat you, especially if he has QTo.

His good one pair hands might be scared too.


Raise pre.
Raise now

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Seems like a no-brainer call, especially against randos. I don't understand squeezing with a hand that plays terribly OOP when we just sat down. The solver has this as a 100% call.


lotta button pressers itt blindly 3betting with med pairs OOP and expecting to take it down pre. The problem with that is what happens when someone calls, or if the unknown (assuming) MP player 4bets? Then we would be kicking ourselves seeing this flop without any cards.

I prefer to raise the flop since it's not only a vulnerable flop but a lot of cards can kill any further action later (or scare us ourselves).


I'm fine with preflop.

I think I might prefer a big donk on this drawy a board.

SPR is 8. We're not necessarily ahead on this board but there are a bunch of draws to charge and half the deck could kill our action. So as played I think I prefer a big raise, especially OOP, and commit on safe turn cards.

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by Playbig2000 k

lotta button pressers itt blindly 3betting with med pairs OOP and expecting to take it down pre. The problem with that is what happens when someone calls, or if the unknown (assuming) MP player 4bets? Then we would be kicking ourselves seeing this flop without any cards.

I like 3betting from the CO or BTN with mid PPs against light or weak-tight raisers, but doing this from the blinds against unknowns seems no bueno to me.


by Always Fondling k

I like 3betting from the CO or BTN with mid PPs against light or weak-tight raisers

I don't 3bet tight raisers almost ever.


by Playbig2000 k

I don't 3bet tight raisers almost ever.

I meant "weak-tight" as "TAGgy but overfolds."


idk when i 3! this hand on the flop somehow i always gii vs qt lol.
we don't like any middling cards on the turn but in game I would just smooth call on the flop and evaluate turn and river.


just call. raising just iso's you vs better. i would have to have a read that villian is a total donk calling station and id have to have a bluffy image to raise for value here. i never have a bluffy image and i do not default to thinking people are calling stations (people are generally overfoldy) so i wouldnt raise.

considering villain opened in MP, QT, 99, huge draws like KdTd should all be in range.

yes 1/2 the deck kills your action but 1/2 the deck also beats you. id rather see what the next two cards are before blowing up the pot.

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