1/3 tricky hand

That's a pretty expensive Button straddle? I think most reasons for straddling are very meh at best, but the best one is to make the game play larger... which is absolutely pointless if a lot of stacks are just 100bbs.

So the old guy has minraised our straddle preflop? I mean, with position on the world and this price I guess I don't hate a call (even though we have RIO issues).

[ You ever encounter that time when you think, oh, goddamit, it's a troll? The whole thing is just a ****ing troll? ]

We minraised over a $20 bet to $40 in a $140 pot to "see where we're at"?

[ Yeah, that was the point I reconsidered everything. But I'm still going to take everything at face value though. Lol @ me, ldo. ]

With bottom pair and / flush draw / backdoor straight draw I probably raise to the old guys stack. We have FE against his big pocket pairs < A and meanwhile mostly have awesome equity if he calls + dead money overlay.

Next time post stack sizes on each street so we know what is going on. Old guy only has $55 left betting into a $260 pot. So due to the bet being so small I think we're just forced to raise to whatever we'd bet here if checked to (which would probably be fairly large).

GcluelessNLnoobG

I did a rough estimate of stack sizes at 300/400 for all only said what his was and the SB because I don't remember exactly what the BB had somewhere in 300 to 400. Reason for the min raise is sb typically will not continue a 3! remember I play with this guy all the time he likes to play small ball even with his chip stack if he really had a monster he would jam at this point if he has an ace strong kicker he's gonna flat. BB is just along for the ride as far as I am concerned with a sticky ace.

Anyways so I ended up 3! to 135$ the jam from the shorty stack and got two more callers because of the pot size I believe no one wanted to walk away. I've now got trips with that 9s and a flush drawer. The river comes a 2H so now I am again in a tricky situation again especially since both sb and bb checked to me now what do you do (i want to add sb go to move is check raising when he has made his hand on the river) ? Do I flat possibly losing to the boat from the short stack whos all in or do I try to get value with a big bet for my flush and then have to worry about getting jammed on by someone who has me covered with a better flush??

Again, do some of the work for us. What's the pot size? What's the stack sizes? Without wasting my time and computing it myself, my guess is that you're trivially committed for small stacks against at least one of the Villains, if not both.

Gdosomeofyourownheavylifting,imoG

pot size is 720
bb something like 200ish
sb 900ish
old man all in
hero 550ish

So I'd say at the very least target the BB's stack and shove that (for a mere ~1/4 of stacks). Can probably safely fold to a reraise from SB cuz no one is doing this with worse in a mostly protected pot.

GcluelessNLnoobG

So when it got to me I tanked for a little bit around a minute or two and put in 155$ sb tanks for about 2 or 3 minutes and puts in $400.

BB called for less all in I was pot committed and had to call as well BB had KKs which I never would put him on w/ K hearts figuring he has a blocker I guess. SB had AJ and the old guy had A9 which i was not surprised to see lost the main but won the side pot.

Please look at the stickys and format your hands correctly -- much easier for us to read and give feedback.

Why are we defending with T9s, a button straddle (to $12!) when most everyone has 30-40 straddles, and we get minclick opened by an OMC in the CO starting with 10 straddles?

Fold, and I'm agreeing with GG.

Max straddle at rivers 1/3 table is 15$
I was defending my straddle. This was essentially a min raise at a low action table where I was trying to induce action. It did end up being profitable but could have been a disaster so I am not saying your wrong at all to have folded. I really like to open multi way pots with a raise from position when holding suited connectors I find them for the most part to be very profitable against big broadways. Also very easy to get away from when I don't connect.

No offense, but your posts would be easier to understand with more diligent use of punctuation. Otherwise it reads like incoherent stream-of-consciousness rambling.

That said...

PRE - Are we to understand that you straddled on the BTN, for $12, got two calls from the blinds, and the OMC in the CO only raised to $25?

That's pretty weird. Don't know what to make of it, but getting a price, and in position, I guess it can't be terrible to call with T9s (I'm reading this as you had T9hh - is that right?). I think I might just fold T9o.

FLOP - So, you flop bottom pair and a draw to the 3rd nut flush, and the BB donks out into three opponents, including the OMC, on an ace-high board, for 20% pot?

That's also pretty weird. I'd guess he has Ax, or a higher draw. I'm not folding yet, especially not after the CO calls, but I'm already leery of what's about to happen.

No idea why you're raising. "To see where I'm at" isn't a reason to bet or raise. We raise to build a pot and deny equity. No other reason. What does it tell you if you raise, and get 3B? What does it tell you if you get called? The only thing you learn is that you had the best hand, and only when they fold.

And, what the serious f**k is with the min-click?

Raising (to a normal size) only ensures that our opponents continue with a stronger range than they'd have if we just flat called. Min-clicking it is hilarious and cute, but accomplishes nothing, and tells us nothing.

Especially when the CO is short stacked, and OMC's hate folding on the flop - I just don't see any point to raising here, with bottom pair and a draw to the 3rd nuts. How is the OMC going to steal the pot if he jams $75 into what I think is $260 going to the turn? What hands call the $25 pre and the $40 on the flop, but fold turn for $75, getting 4.5 to 1 or more?

TURN - Well, that raise on the flop sure worked out well for us. Unbelievable catch.

Why don't you think you have the OMC beat? He's got three combos of AA, three of JJ, and probably none of A9 or J9, when he raises pre, but doesn't raise the flop. I'd be giving him every combo of AK and AQ before I gave him any of A9 or J9. With 3 of the 9's accounted for, there are only 2 possible combos of A9s or J9s, and I don't think the OMC is min-clicking it pre with J9s, ever, and probably not A9s very often.

I don't even think he has AA or JJ when he flats the flop. OMC's hate getting outdrawn, and will fast-play their thick value, especially when other players are showing aggression.

Obviously we want the SB and / or BB to call. Whatever they have, odds are they're drawing thin, when we've got trips and are holding 2 flush cards. Seems like a pretty standard call with just one card left to come. Pray the SB calls and the BB re-jams.

ETA - just read the reveal. Wild that CO did have A9. Somewhat hard to believe that SB had AJ and BB had KK. That's all the 9's, three of the aces, and two of the jacks accounted for. What the f**k was BB thinking? He could have folded to your flop raise and gotten away from this for $45.

Sorry about the jib jab it's harder on the phone to make it look nice. Anyways BB was not a good player he gave away far too much information over the time he sat down and I made a huge bluff on him a few orbits ago so he was out to get me absolutely sure of it.

The old guy bought in for his 3rd time and typically jams when he makes his hand or doesn't show interest. Sb plays small ball similar to myself likes to keep the pot small and raise large on the river to take it down with a made hand or semi bluff depending on situation. I have played with him several times.

If I think back to why I min clicked I wanted to stay the aggressor and if I get three bet depending on the size if reasonable im calling. I'm going to gamble for that heart but have my opponents putting me on an ace of some kind. If I don't catch up on turn I can fold to anything unreasonable and check if it checks around which I doubt it would have.