1/3 Line Check with KK

Happy to get stacks in on almost any runout here 100bb deep.

I would exploitatively bet bigger on an ace high flop here in order to accomplish this vs all V’s Ax hands.

AP we can’t fold here just bc a BDFD hit. We are close to top of range. Snap call and expect to mostly win.

Pre and flop seem somewhat standard.

The turn is a pretty big brick and you still have a huge range advantage, so I would consider betting BIG with both value and bluffs. SPR is ~3 so you can bet 2/3 on turn and set up a geometric river jam. You can also potentially bet huge on turn and leave him with, like, half pot on the river.

As played, Ax of hearts is definitely a possibility, but as fatman says above me, you can't fold. You still beat value here IMO and depending on how many offsuit hands villain has, bluffs are easy enough to find.

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Welcome to the forum, OP.

PRE - what a wonderful table, when you open 5x from UTG1 and get 4 callers. I wonder if your table image is weak (no offense), making opponents want to get involved with you, even when you open from EP.

FLOP - On ace-high flops, I'd usually be checking or betting big, to target our opponents' AX. I think here, on AK7rb, I can get behind checking or betting small, when we'll have so much AA/KK/AK in our range when we open from EP.

Also - you said you got 4 callers pre-flop, and then 2 folded on the flop. If that's right, then the pot should be $135 going to the turn, not $110, unless 3 people folded, and only V called.

TURN - Interesting spot. It looks like V called our flop bet last to act, after everyone else folded? He should mostly have AX, but I'd also wonder if he picked up a BDFD with two hearts on board. JT is also double-gutted now.

I think I'd size up, to get value from his AX and his draws, and bet at least 2/3 pot, if not full pot, or even 1.25x pot.

If we're only starting out $330 effective, and only $290 remaining, with $110 in the pot, I might just jam when V checks to us, hoping an almost 3x pot jam looks bluffy.

But, no need to get crazy. If we make it $75, and V calls, there'll be $360 in the pot, and $215-$220 remaining getting to the river, making for an easy <2/3 pot jam.

RIVER - Yuck, that 2h.

I'd think a lot of his NFD combos would raise pre, or raise turn, so I'm not too worried about that. Maybe he shows up with QJhh, QThh, or JThh, but that's just three combos. I don't think we can ever fold 2nd set here, getting over 3.5 to 1 on a call, when he could just have a ton of AX off-suit with the naked Ah.

ETA - I'd be discounting that a flush is going to go for a check-raise here, rather than just donking out. This feels a lot like the naked Ah hoping we would have checked back, and check-raising as a bluff, blocking the nut flush.

To answer your question, no, I don't think you sized down too much. If anything, I might have bet smaller, like $75, to induce a raise, or target his 2P combos that might not call a 1/2 pot bet.

Had we bet $75 on the turn, sizing up for a river jam, I'd still call if V donk-jammed the river. If we know he's capable of check-raising the river as a bluff, he's capable of donk-jamming as a bluff.

Pre is whatever.

Flop seems fine.

Turn I'm betting more like $75.

River , first thing is you can never fold at these stack sizes and this villain. Second thing is we have to value bet since its the backdoor flush. Third bet size seems fine but AP I might bet smaller to induce a raise vs. a bluffy guy since a $25/ $45/ $65 line looks very much like a decent Ace that's scared of getting raised.

Thanks for the feedback. And doc, I mistyped: 3 callers, so 4 players to the flop. I’ve edited the original post.

I would go larger on the flop and turn. River, you probably need to call, but he hit the backdoor flush a lot. I don't know if you could just x/c the river or if that loses too much value.

Flop is fine, turn I would go 150% pot. River is a trivial call.

nice hand, would call river as well

NGL turn sizing kinda tilts me. The action, the runout, our hand, the remaining stack sizes, the board texture, all of it is screaming for us to size up.

Going less than 1/2p and leaving more than full pot for the river is a pretty big blunder AFAICT, and I don't often say that about flop/turn sizing.

I would yawn fold river against most players (literally any Axhh is a possibility, to answer your question in OP), but you seem to have presented the reads as if this is a mandatory call so I guess do that.

I limp in but that's my style.

SPR is 5 and board ain't drawy so we're cool with getting in stacks over three streets with small bets. So I'd also target an A / gutshots / etc. with a $25 (or even slightly bigger) bet.

Our turn bet is too small as it leaves > PSB for the river. Plus board is getting a lot more drawy. I'd go at least $80, which would set up an easier $210 into $270 for the river.

River ain't great as he can have all the Axhh as well as a lot of the broadway gutshots hh. Against a guy who can bluff I might go really small to induce (like $50 which is screaming to get raised). As played I think we're smoked a lot, but there are still some busted straights and worse value, so I don't think we can fold.

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FWIW, no one is making much of a mistake preflop (at least against us, they are possibly making larger mistakes against the rest of the field callers due to being dominated by them / possibility of being squeezed). Everyone got IO of 25+:1 plus most have position; if they play well preflop, it's actually quite debatable how good a result this is (where we'll mostly being flying blind OOP at a handcuffing SPR and they'll mostly know where they're at in position).

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Easy call I do not think you should be worried about monsters under the bed. It was most likely all getting in if he jammed the turn anyways. Your hand has extreme showdown value vs a LAG donkey if he did catch the flush your paying him off regardless. You cannot fold and should expect a win here. I do not think your bet sizing is off that much maybe a little bit more but after all you did want a call! Also compared to your stack sizing I mean you want to be paid here on this huge hand and even better flop.

River is pretty gross, but that's poker for you. I think V's play is a bit spewy for me, but if you know he's the type to bluff on the river you probably should have just checked had him donk off 100$ into you on a bluff steal and then you can make an easier less stressful call then having to deal with a 3!..

I do not see him checking back on the river according to your synopsis of him. And if you were willing to bet on the river so much you should just as easily be able to call here because your at the table you've played against him for a while and its your read. You wouldn't have bet for value if you really thought he had it now would you!

** TRUST YOUR GUT! **

Lots of great points here. Really appreciate the feedback.

Consensus seems to be sizing up the turn to have a better sizing to jam river. This is admittedly something I need to improve upon and this hand shows that very clearly.

As for the result, here it is:

Incredible flop peel by villain.