Is Bet-folding up to 3rd nuts on live low stakes cash OTR almost mandatory?

Pre is more than dubious, it is terrible. Yes, action as an invited player and all that, but not 3-gappers from EP, and def not limp/calling a raise. This is very, very bad.

Flop is likely a donk, as another s kills your hand or your action, but checking to c/r is also appropriate.

Turn should be bigger. The card is a blank, and with your call the pot is $56. Go for a PSR of $70 (total), imo. $90 seems too unlikely to get called, even by AsKx

River is read dependent. It might be a fold on a blank in most instances, but given the lack of reads, AsTs is the only hand that likely takes this line, given all the spades are broadway, I just have to pay him off if he has the royal. If I have a read that he'll raise over a limper with a weaker AsXs, I fold, but against a generic V, most of those hands overlimp. Meanwhile, he could be bluffing with the NF blocker.

So to answer your question, yes I b/f third nuts in low stakes games as a default, but here I do not without strong reads. And if you got stacked, while that is what comes of the really bad play pre

If it's a juicy, invite-only, private game, I guess I understand limping pre (I am being generous here) but I would absolutely never call a raise with this hand. You are torching money, and inviting horrific spots like this one.

Flop and turn seem somewhat standard. I personally would never lead on this board after limp-calling. Sizing up with the turn raise to set up a river jam makes sense.

Do you have reads on the villain? If there is any chance he is overplaying a worse flush (something like 87s) after slowplaying OTF, then I don't think we can ever fold. The price you are getting is too good.

It was one of the 1st hands I played, and as he was a face I didn´t reckon I jsut assumed him being a rec. Most likely I should be also tagged as a rec for just play way too much hands pre and then overcomplicating what should be an easy river spot.

So far I don´t think I've seen suggested high vpip ranges for private games where image of playing wider pre plays a role when it comes to having gud chancdes of keep getting invited, are there any? or intuition should be enough?

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As for playing some cheese for image's sake, position, position, position. Play your trash only in position, and do it as an overlimp or as an open. They won't pay much attention to the details, just to the fact that you showed down 75s that one time and that you seem to play more than one hand an orbit.

Preflop is a punt followed by a bigger punt, unless you have good reads on what to do here.

Even worse, preflop is a fold to the raise if he ever even has a better hand in range on the river.

If I'm transported into the river spot only knowing it's a lol private invite game, then I'd guess that call river has to be better long term than fold no matter if you win or lose (fold = less likely to be invited back if correct).

Well what can we hope for with junk bonds? For them to turn a turnip into a gold bar, ..... wait too out there? Lets play 95 suited ! YAAAAAAAAAAA LETS GO!

Sorry I can't give you better advice this is just way to far outside of playable realm. I would treat this as a big blind special and x call, x call, x call keep it small and control the pot and the raiser from going nuts. But noooo we go ** DEVIL EYES ** flop 3rd nuts lets go!!!!!

Sorry for the theatrics, but this is like one of those hands I see on a tiktok feed asking if they played it wrong.

I am probably not folding to the river jam without some very special reads on villain.

I don't love checking raising the turn, I would just bet. It worked out though.

Pre, I get it, it is a private game. It is probably fine even though it is losing money. If the game is really good I might just open raise a hand like this. Try to get a few showdowns with these types of holdings in a good private game where action is expected.

If you are going to limp pre w/ 95ss and call a raise, you must call the river. Seriously.

For any curious guy, I almost snap folded and he showed KJs, he said he didn´t have another way to win the hand as if saying he knew for sure he was bluffing. I just didnt think he would check back otf strong vulnerable hands like low flushes, str8s, sets or 2 pair, and if he was somehow slowplaying otf one of them I also felt he would just 3bs ott after I xr him.

As I said before, even tho I've been playing husngs and spins for over 10 years, I'm more of a recreational when it comes to low stakes live cash particularly on semi private games where I feel I need to vpip way more than what theory says, but what Garick suggests I think is the key factor I will remind on these games meaning adding that xtra vpip only with position and as an overlimp or RFI