$1/2 5 handed - focusing on wrong V
$1/2 5 handed as several players are walking
V1 BB ~$250 30’s guy, reg player. Not great, not terrible. Aggressive at times. H has picked him off twice when V was bluffing and H was super light in the last 2 hours.
V2 SB $257 late 50’s WG. Just came from $100 daily tourney. I’m straight guessing here but probably not a great player. Nothing out of line or even noteworthy in 2-3 orbits
H BTN covers 40’s WG. Playing well. Table should view me as LAG. V1 views me as sticky also. Don’t know if V2 does or not.
OTTH
Folds to H, sees JTo makes it $7. Smaller than full ring raise size but what I’d been using at short table.
BTN calls. V1 goes $20 - this could easily be top 25-33%hand with a reasonable spazz factor mixed in. I expect V1 to play back against H’s aggro here pretty wide as he knows H is wide. H calls. V2 calls.
Flop $56
J72r
V1 $20, H call I think is standard here, V2 calls.
Turn $116
J72 Tr
V1 X, H goes $65 as I expect V1 expects me to attack his check with about full range. V2 makes it $135 with $102 behind. V1 folds. H regrets many things about his line. H? Really don’t have a great range on V2. Maybe he slow played A’s, maybe T2o is his favorite hand, maybe he has 89 or JJ. Lost at this point. Was prepared to call V1’s shove. But don’t know about V2’s min click.
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pre is terrible sandwiched
post i would not bf the turn if all u have on him is 100$ tourney player
Folding pre. I would jam turn.
What is the logic in going 7 preflop? Are you going 7 when raising first in from the HJ through SB in full ring? If not, I don't think you're being logically consistent. People overthink short-handed. Play how you would normally when UTG through LJ fold because it is the same game. After raising 7 though, ai would call the stupid 3b size getting a great price.
On the turn I would stick the money in, but not in love with it either.
With such limited reads, don't see how we fold. Probably just sticking it all in.
Sets are hard to make. We've top two on one of the driest boards possible.
Both V's sizes are tilting me though. Resembling the, "Eeew! Brother, No! What is that?" meme, seeing someone clickback over half their stack. That you might be chopping with this clown, is about the only reason I'm not making an exploitative fold, though it's a bit more likely than 77/22.
Another reason not to go so small pre is rake.
Lots of things here are terrible/bad/whatever, depending on why you did them.
Would mostly raise bigger pre., esp. from the BTN.
Calling the 3bet is bad unless you have reads that SB is calling light and going to fold to the 3bet (very unlikely IMO) or calling light again (more likely, but worse for you), and even then it's not great.
Flop call is maybe fine HU ... so again you need reads that SB has a lot of trash that will fold to just random call bad top pair with dirty outs to two pair.
Presumably if someone asked you preflop what you wanted to happen with your hand your reply wouldn't be "I'll hit top pair and be good" ... but that's all you have, and if you hit a J lots of people slow down with overpairs.
Turn bet would be fine HU, but is now probably too big and you need reads that SB isn't going to raise or that you have an easy decision when he does.
After the raise ... it's almost certainly a fold without reads that V is massively weirdly overplaying QQ or AJ or has a bunch of worse two pair T7/T2 or something, because population isn't bluffing KQ here and flop overcall and turn x/r can easily be every set and at least 98s.
But you are probably at the top of your range, so I kind of understand ... hope you are chopping or SB is terrible.
Obviously pre is bad, but here we are. Flop is fine. As played, I shove turn. Not much else you can do. He probably shows up with the same hand, but let's hope it's AJ or similar.
am i misreading hand? are we otb or co? i see in the notes it says btn, sb, bb but then in the hh we open and btn calls. if we're otb and sb calls i would call the 3b given sizing
Yeh, I initially read it as H on BTN and V2 on SB (what the player profiles said) ... and assumed the preflop action of "BTN calls" was a typo for SB calls.
Then flop is really:
SB x
BB b
BTN c
SB c
FWIW, I tend to play much more LAG if I'm playing cash immediately after a tournament. I think it's because tournament structure requires more disciplined play and it's stressful, so splashing around in low stakes cash is a way to blow off steam.
Last night I binked top prize in a $340 daily, then sat down at 1/3 and threw a party for the first few orbits. Stuck $300 in twenty minutes, before knuckling down and grinding it back to +$600 over the next couple hours, then calling it a night.
The read that V just came from a low buy in tournament would lead me to give him a wider range when hero stabs for 1/2 pot on turn. Sure, maybe he shows up with 77/22/89, but he could be doing this with a draw or something stupid, like AJ, or even J8/T9, because "I haz blockers to ze nutz but no showdown value."
Yes, sorry. H is BTN preflop should read SB calls.
As to preflop sizing I don’t have a great reason. I don’t play short live much as generally every reg starts whining under about 8 handed. Just thought wider range so smaller sizing.
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