Big bet on flush board when I have a top pair

Big bet on flush board when I have a top pair

I want you to give me your opinions about this hand. I played this hand on NLH cash game 25-50 peso (1-2 USD) 9max in Mexico. At this time, I had KJo (I didn't have ❤️ in this card.

Jh4h7c9h9d
here BB effective stack 16000 peso
Lg effective stack 10000 peso
preflop
Lg raise 150 peso
BB call

Flop 325 peso
J❤️4❤️7
Lg bet 500 peso
BB call

Turn 1325peso
9❤️
Lg bet 500 peso
BB call

River 2325 peso
9
Lg bet 2000 peso
BB ??

Should I call on this spot? I didn't have ❤️ in my card. But I saw that Lg player bluffed with certain frequency and I thought that he would bluff at this spot with air hands. Should I think that Lg player have 9?

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07 February 2025 at 04:28 PM
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You should fold pre-flop w/ KJo in the BB. As played, fold the flop, then the turn, and 100% the river.

You just shouldn't be here -- not much else to say.

I guess if LJ is a maniac or something you can 3bet pre, but I still fold 😉


You posted the same hand twice. You need to delete one of the threads.


by Javanewt k

You should fold pre-flop w/ KJo in the BB. As played, fold the flop, then the turn, and 100% the river.

You just shouldn't be here -- not much else to say.

I guess if LJ is a maniac or something you can 3bet pre, but I still fold 😉

Is this standard now a days? Folding KJ from bb for 3x bb seems ridiculous to me....but I haven't been reading the forums in a while.


It's standard for me. I just don't see the point unless it's the right opponent, and then you can 3bet 😉


by VincentVega k

[QUOTE=Javanewt;58885815]

Is this standard now a days? Folding KJ from bb for 3x bb seems ridiculous to me....but I haven't been reading the forums in a while.

Calling in the BB with KJo is a major leak, especially in a rake-pot game.


by Always Fondling k

[QUOTE=VincentVega;58885947]

Calling in the BB with KJo is a major leak, especially in a rake-pot game.

Ok, I've just been wanting to go over some things (fundamentals, questioning play lately) but I don't want to hijack his thread. I get what you're saying obv that KJ doesn't play well oop vs a normal raiser. OP doesn't give much info but it could be purposeful. I do see it looks like they are 250bb deep?

I would have thought unless the villain is a rock you would have enough implied odds but obviously it's situations like this one that you're concerned about.

As far as the hand without much info he's given me enough reason to believe he has KJ in a bad way and it's a fold on river (actually turn-edit but definitely by river)


Haven't solved it yet, but was surprised to find KJo was not in a typical BB defend or 3! range, judging by what I've found online. Albeit likely incomplete. If I was going to play it, it'd be a 3! vs a call.

Anyway, leading 1.5x pot on the flop is certainly something. I don't know that TP2k is good enough to call here. Idly tempted to blast off turn if I did call flop, when the flush comes in and V same bets. We don't block any flushes, and this is probably bad---any potential H combos that float that Mongo cbet and flush up here, likely 3!---but still. We're repping 65hh? Really?


fold fold el foldo


by VincentVega k

I get what you're saying obv that KJ doesn't play well oop vs a normal raiser. OP doesn't give much info but it could be purposeful. I do see it looks like they are 250bb deep?

I would have thought unless the villain is a rock you would have enough implied odds but obviously it's situations like this one that you're concerned about.

With KJo, it feels like it's mostly reverse implied odds, since on a K or J high flop you are likely going to win a small pot or lose a big one. Of course, you're also OOP as well.

At 200BB deep and even with just a x3 open-raise, the solver is throwing away KJo.

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