A9o from BB out of line?
1/3 NLHE 9 handed
Table is a mix of a few nits and mostly loose passives. Just want to get a barometer on how far out of line you think this is? All stacks are between 100-500 and we have 400 in BB.
V1 - loose passive buys in short for 150 and plays really badly. folded AKo face up earlier (because "the guy has to have AA") with 100$ stack. he shoves and limp-shoves pre to make his decisions easier so he doesn't have to navigate post. I've seen him check down monsters and get no value. He also shoves high equity draws post, like limps calls KTs and shoves open ended on Q-J-blank for instance. VPIP around 30%. 150$. CO.
V2 - losing loose passive that is simply terrible, the kind of guy that cold calls 50$ off a 100$ stack with pocket 44 in SB, whiffs flop and folds. FoF post. 30% VPIP as well. 150$ BTN.
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MP limps, LJ limps, V1 to 7$ in CO, V2 calls 7$ OTB, SB nit folds (nice guy), Banana in the BB sees A♠ 9♣ and goes 25, MP folds, LJ folds, V1 folds, V2 calls with 125 back.
I ask to see how much V2 has back and he doesn't want to move his arms and gets angry and says "why you're not going to bet anyway!". And then V1 looks over and tells me his stack size.
Flop 60 - J♣ 6♣ 3♥
I cbet 30 and he calls (I'm now in shutdown mode unimproved)
Turn 120 (95 back) - Q♣
I shove...
4 Replies
You ran a clinic on button clicking.
I don't get it. I like the 3! vs described (even as I have no idea what to do vs that speech) but why 25?? 35-40, oop, with the 2 limpers's dead money, sounds much better.
Anyway, he's fit or fold post, called (not raised!) your cbet on J6cc3x, and the Qc is the card you shove? Good luck. Why do you think he called?
You can get this guy's money on another hand. Heck, let him feel good about his play, and he might top up?
At these lol stack sizes all preflop raises should be for value. Not convinced that terrible A9o is for that, especially versus a raise (as lol as it is). I fold preflop. ETA: Also just noticed our raise sizing; how this didn't go 5 way to the flop is beyond me.
I can only assume you have your typical banana image, right? And that you're already that guy at the table that is raising far too much and showing down some extremely questionable hands? So wow well do you think this is going to work postflop? With my image... maybe. Yours? Seems punty, imo.
GcluelessNLnoobG
the way you view your opponents i think is indicative of large issues that probably aren't easily fixable (ive said this before). like either every one of your opponents is either the worst player in the entire world or the best, and it seems like you spend most of your hands posted either making elaborate plays vs the better people to prove u belong or trying to run over the bad people with ATC because u think they suck. is some weird egoic thing that i pretty sure leads to frequent mistakes. am sure that feedback will go over well. i would also be interested in reading your assessment of yourself / skill level similar to how you provide reads on your opponents.
the actual hand postflop is probably whatever / fine but idk man. would just stick to strong fundamentals instead of trying to do things like this. id probably size up the 3bet if i did this pre but i would guess u have (much) less fold equity than you need, and probably his rnage is tighter than u think to iso over people even if the sizing looks weak so most of the time you end up with dominated hand in bloated pot oop
didnt notice initially but i dont get how u decided to sqz this oop into the guy who calls 50 pre w 44 (you probably quite literally never win pre with your sizing)
