I'm lost.

It’s tempting to play these hands as an overcall. I would resist that temptation. Ironically you are better playing them HU (although they just belong in the muck).

Combo draws can be played aggressively heads up. You usually have enough equity against one opponent that you are adding some fold equity to.

Multi-way, you have a weak pair and a weak RIO draw. Facing heat from more than one player, just get out of the way.

I fold pre, especially given your description of SB.

I get its tough at this point. We're likely up against a monster (probably 22), better pair, and better draws, and our pair is very rarely win it unimproved. I think I let this one go.

Fold pf the first time it comes to you. There is a huge temptation to call because you could hit a big hand and it is only $3. It is actually a leak that is hard to identify because they aren't memorable. Remember that almost everybody does it at the table, and almost everybody is a loser at the table. That's not a coincidence.

Fold the second time it comes around because it is no longer cheap to see the flop.

On the flop, you have the nut low FD and 2PNK. Two people are shoving money. Get out of the pot.

Just fold pre. Zero reason to get involved -- even the first time. As played, fold again. The only reason to shove is if you want to gamble.

As others have said, 43s is a crap hand, and even overlimping on the BTN will often win you a small pot or have you lose a large pot. If you're going to play cheese, at least raise it.

I just got home from playing 1-3 at a predominantly limpy table. After being card dead for an hour, I raised 9s7s on the BTN following two limps...one of the limpers called, and when I bet 1/2 pot on a QJ5r board he folded, after which I showed the bluff.

Curiously, showing this bluff almost got him to call a shove when I raised his donk-block bet on a river that made a 5-card straight but also gave me the backdoor nut flush, since on this hand hand he tanked for close to two minutes and even said out loud, "He could have the flush, but he also bluffed me that other hand..."

Flop is an easy fold IMO. Almost all the good spades are still out there in a multiway pot in addition to sets and facing either one (or both at the same time, another possibility) would be really bad.

If there is an aggressive player left to act after us, we should be more likely to fold a hand like this PF.

How big does our suited connector need to be to get involved on the button? Are we ever just over limping or is this always a raise to thin the field?

I played this hand on the Advanced Poker Training app. It suggested jamming this but I didn't think that made sense. I'm glad I asked.

I'd play QJs or higher.

I don't think the initial limp is egregious when you're on the button and after 4 limps as long as you know the risks and limitations and don't fall in love with it. At low stakes you're not going to face a raise all that often from the blinds. Folding is probably still better, but a speculative limp on the button getting 5/1 with a suited connector isn't a disaster as long as you can make disciplined decisions later.

When SB makes a proper sized raise (actually he could have gone bigger) I'd now get out of the way even closing the action with position.

Flop is frustrating, but EP either has 2p+ or a bigger flush draw, not to mention SB who can have some nut flush draws and sets himself although it's more likely an overpair. Whatever, your hand looks pretty but you're in bad shape. Fold.

The initial limp is not that bad. Fold to the preflop raise. Fold the flop. Your pair of 4s isn't ahead and your flush draw may be dominated.

Think about it this way - if one guy has a set and the other has a higher fd, you're drawing dead.

This is also why you don't want to play these kinds of hands when you know it's going to go multi-way. Even in one of the best case scenarios where you hit a combo draw, you can't comfortably stack off on the flop.

raise pre. As played fold to the raise pre. Everything else is irrelevant.

Gotta fold, need fold equity to justify a raise.

Best case scenarios Hero is getting it in with maybe 25-33% equity, and not profitable even with dead money. Would want some strong reads here that our flush drive is live and villains don't have better than 1p to get it in here. Not impossible, but not likely.

Raising pre is terrible. It just builds the pot in a bad situation. Worse than limping, because the pot is always raised. What does it accomplish? You aren't going to be able to represent a big pair or whatever multiway. Theoretically, you could raise really big, but then you maybe get it 2 or 3 way with the worst hand.

Getting it HU IP with a bunch of dead money is great actually. If i knew for a fact that a raise to $25 would get me HU IP to a fish, id happily play 72o. That is the goal, its a question of how often you can accomplish it. Folding is fine too. I raise to whatever size I think is most likely to get it HU, and I tighten my range the larger I bet.

GTO does a lot of 2-3x raising, risking 2 or 3 BBs to win 1.5. Here there are 5.5 BBs in the pot, so risking 8.33 BBs ($25) to win 5.33 is about the same bet to pot ratio. Not saying its GTO or something, just saying that these “huge” sizes are perfectly reasonable given the size of the pot.

Yeah, not unreasonable to raise big and hope to take it down or get it 2 or 3 ways with position and your hand misrepresented. Some fish at 2/3 may limp/call mid pps or big aces though. You may get the junk to fold and isolate against one or two good hands. A raise that just builds the pot is bad. Notice everyone called 20, so probably make it at least 30 to have a chance of isolating. I am not sure if raising big is profitable, but it is a better way of playing a hand like this than limp/calling.

Raise or fold pre, but mostly just fold.

Definitely fold flop, ainec.

Yes, easy fold on the flop.

Preflop is generally a fold. However, I don't mind the limp with position multiway, but very easy fold to the raise. The blinds shouldn't be raising that often. Limp/calling automatically is a donk play. If you had 44, then probably a pot builder raise or limp/call. This hand needs to be folded to the raise.

Raising large preflop is also reasonable, maybe partly for table image. The limp/calling or raising to 25 or less are just bad.

Yeah, if we're in a splashy game with bad players who are going to make big mistakes pre, by all means, over-limp with all the SC's and S1G's from the BTN. But when we don't really smash the flop, and we're seeing a bet and a raise, it's time to get the f**k out of Dodge.

I don’t mind the limp pre and folding to the sb raise. We need a big SPR for this hand. Folding flop obv.

Low SCs have huge RIO in big SPR MW pots. You just get stacked whenever you have a flush or trips and the money goes in, so you gotta hit a big hand just so you can get like 1 bet worth of value out of someone’s top pair.

If youre gonna limp the button (which I dont recommend), you should do it with a hand like K3s because they cooler SC in trips over trips and flush over flush.