Top pair medium kicker.

Completing here is fine given the odds understanding that you are proceeding cautiously unless you make a very strong hand (straight, 2 pair). I would call flop.

Just call and see what happens.

Preflop imo you could call with any suited hand and any offsuit 3 gapper or less or so.

Like even 74o should be fine imo given how cheap it is.

As played flop we have a very clear x/call..Your hand is too weak to x/raise given he won't continue with too many worse hands and we can't barrel turn ever really.

Agree w/ just call/evaluate.

I did just call and the rest folded.

(45 in pot) Jd7h2c3c...I check and he bets 35. I feel like he isn't one to slow down here with anything but I'm not sure. Is this another call? What's my plan for blank rivers if I call? I saw him jam all in on the river twice when short stacked. Once if was a missed draw and once he had two pair.

Call again

I call again, too. How does V see you? Is he even paying attention?

FWIW, J9o is an OK complete from SB if you are comfortable post vs. these players. Put you in a little bit of a spot vs. this guy, though. You might just have to call him down (depending on river).

I see your point, and agree really, but this kind of goes against your earlier post to proceed cautiously unless H flops 2P+.

H has a mediocre top pair. BU has bet pot, gotten called, then betted 75% on turn. Pot will be 115, with 147 back if we call. With V being bluffy and using big bets for everything (though I don't know why V didn't pot this street too) we probably see a shove on the river. If our plan was to call down 3 streets for 66bb with top pair, great, but if it wasn't, our plan needs some work.

FWIW, against this V, even with the bd clubs, I think we have to just call down.

You answered your own question. The advice about completing SB and proceeding cautiously was generic. Check calling down with TPNK is a V-specific exploit.

I think preflop is reasonable. I play in a 1/3 NL game and even I complete here a lot with some trashy one/two gappers (although I do feel I'm probably too loose as my range in the SB seems too close to my Button range but being OOP I should likely tighten up).

And against this guy OOP 5ways for this price (a PSB), I would actually just sigh check/fold the flop. He's betting 5ways. It's a large bet. There are no draws he can be betting. Someone in the field could be tarping on this dry flop. But mostly, it isn't likely to get easier on the turn/river. I mean, is our plan to hurp durp call down? Cuz that seems horrible. So if we're going to bail, it might as well be now (as putting in a couple of bets to bail later seems worse).

I might get outvoted, but that's how'd I'd play it. We took an extremely cheap flyer and things didn't really work out like we wanted; this is not the blue chipper we were looking to invest in. Sometimes we'll fold the best hand; oh noes, the best hand in an extremely small meaningless pot with high rake. I move on to the next hand (where I'll have the Button).

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Are you looking for what to do in this specific hand, or how to adjust to this V in general? I'd think the general adjustment would inform the decision about what to do in this hand.

If we know V is very loose with his limps and raises pre, and bets a lot when action checks to him, and he's capable of running three street bluffs, and also uses big sizes, then I'd think the adjustments would be:

1. We should be willing to raise more when he limps pre, because he has a raising range, suggesting his limps are weak.

2. We should be willing to 3B him more pre, if we know he's wide with his raises.

3. If we DON'T raise when he limps, we should be willing to raise or call down lighter when action checks to him, because we know he will bet for value or as a bluff.

4. We should be willing to call multiple bets with marginal value, because we know he's capable of running 3-street bluffs, even when he uses big bets.

You're going to have more variance when you call this guy down light. If you're not willing to raise or call down light, then consider playing raise-or-fold pre, and / or consider what your calling / raising threshold is on each street.

For instance, you called the disconnected rainbow flop with TP, weak kicker, which seems fine, though may be a little too optimistic when we're next to act and have 3 opponents behind us, all of whom checked in flow, and so have uncapped ranges.

Luckily all the other opponents fold on the flop. The 3c on the turn is unlikely to have improved his hand, and adds a BDFD and a wheel draw, but we block some of his club draws with the 9c in our hand, and un-block his wheel draws. So we might call again on the turn, but consider the blocker properties of our hand if we face another bet on the river. If the turn was an over-card to our J, we might consider folding.

If the river is another club, or a T or 8, we block some of his flush and straight draws that completed, so we might call again. If the river is an over-card to the J, maybe we fold 2nd pair, weak kicker. If it's an off-suit 5 or 4, bringing in some of his AX wheel draws, maybe we fold. If it's another J, or a 9, or it pairs the board, we probably need to call.

Even an opponent who uses large bet sizes can have sizing tells. If he uses big bets with bluffs and thin value, he might use REALLY big bets with his nutted hands. That sort of observation would help.