2/5/10 — JJ Multiway

I would fold here. This is going to be two pair or better a lot. It’s hard to even come up with a potential bluff for Villain, and very few players are going to have the gall to bluff a spot like this. Could he be overvaluing Tx? Something like T9? He would have to be pretty bad to do this.

By the way, I’m not sure I would raise the donk bet. I think it’s better to call and see what develops in this spot.

Pretty easy fold. I would prefer calling to keep in his bluffs, make him think top pair is still good, and we have outs against better hands. When you raise I would think he calls with his Tx/9x and jams his straights/sets/two pair.

I’d be ok raising a small donk on the flop but I’d just flat this sizing. Calling is probably marginal in this spot. I’d lean toward fold given the x/r makes you look even stronger.

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I’d flat flop.

As played, calling can’t be that bad, but folding will save you money and heartache against most short-bought unknowns. Any reads might help, including clothing, age, comfort with chips, timing tells, denominations of chips.

I probably flat the flop, but I understand the raise. As played, it's a bit of a coin flip vs. an unknown on a very draw-heavy board. From my computer, I sigh-fold. From the table, I try to get a read.

PRE - Think we can raise bigger over a limp from a LAG in MP. We'd like to get this HU and IP going to the flop.

FLOP - Ordinarily, a more than 1/2 pot donk in a multi-way pot on a somewhat wet board is going to be some sort of value. It's nice that we double-block J9, but we unblock all the 2P and sets that beat us, and V1 is still uncapped.

I think we can just call IP and see what happens next. If we think we need to raise (and I don't think we need to), I might just min-click it to shut the BB out and put max pressure on V2 to come up with an optimal response. If we get 3B, by either V, it's a trivial fold.

As played, when V2 donks over 1/2 pot, we raise almost 3x, and a complete unknown V1 decides to jam $800 into $395, I think we can make a pretty trivial fold. If V1 shows a hand worse than ours, good for him.

So $600 to possibly take down an $1,800 pot? I don’t love the spot but I’m going in the tank here for a minute. H has odds to call against 2p and blocks a ton of straight hands. We have just over 20% vs a set. I probably call.

Raising the donk bet otf seems like a pretty big overplay to me, even more so IP against an unknown.

As played, in a vacuum, calling cannot be terrible, but it really depends on V. Without any read, it boils down to how much variance you are willing to take.