2/5 SRP vs reg
2/5 SRP vs reg

2/5 SRP vs reg

Hero: TAG Image. No major pots played yet. Couple of 3bets with good hands, and Overall Standard Stuff.

Villain: Robotic TAG Γ‚β€žProΓ‚β€œ with headphones on, playing some games on his iPad. Did Not Show anything spewy so far.

8 Handed / 1.3k effective

Hero (CO) opens to 20 with KsJs
Villain (BB) calls

Flop (40)
Jh 9s 3s

Villain Check
Hero bet 20
Villain raise to 85
Hero call

Turn (210)
Jh 9s 3s Ad

Check
Check

River (210)
Jh 9s 3s Ad Kh

Villain leads 195

Hero?

17 March 2025 at 12:37 AM
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Not a great spot but must call.


If V had a set, he should barrell turn, imo.
When he checks turn, I think you should bet yourself. You will run into AJ sometimes, but that's life.

As played, not fist pumping (QT got there), but fairly standard call nonetheless otr.


by Niemand m

If V had a set, he should barrell turn, imo.
When he checks turn, I think you should bet yourself. You will run into AJ sometimes, but that's life.

As played, not fist pumping (QT got there), but fairly standard call nonetheless otr.

Edit: I didn't see that H has also a FD. This of course reduces the possible FDs in V's range, so I am more inclined to check back turn.

River remains a call imo.


Given V’s description this is mainly a bluff catch, no? You block a lot of flush combos. Feels like you’re only beating J9 for value here.

Bluffs im seeing some missed low flush draws and T8. That’s about it.

Call isn’t terrible but I think you can manage to get away from this one

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maybe im weird but i think checking flop is best because you block stuff you want to call and you do not want to get CR'd by sets.


Interesting hand. Thanks for posting.

Grunch:

Generally, when I see someone at the table wearing headphones and paying more attention to some device than the game, I assume they're going to be playing tight pre, and rarely getting OOL pre or post. So...

PRE - seems pretty standard.

FLOP - I'm on alert when he x/r's. He's going to have 2P+ for value, some combo-draws, and occasionally some NFD's.

But I'd think he'd 3B JJ pre, and probably 99, so his sets are mostly going to be 33, and slivers of 99. His value range is pretty narrow, and I could see him doing this with a lot of bluffs that are hoping we check back the turn.

With so much equity in our hand, blocking JJ, J9 and JXss, and this deep, I might consider 3B'ing here, to deny equity, and keep the betting lead, because I don't think he can 4B often enough, and I think he has too many bluffs in range.

TURN - My first thought is good check back. It would suck to bet and get x/r'd again. But I'm not sure. That A is so good for our range, and I wonder how many draws he has in his flop x/r range, that would be happy to get a free card here.

RIVER - Interesting spot, honestly.

We lose to all his sets and straights, but we beat his NFD's and worse 2P. I'd think he'd barrel turn with most of his flop x/r range. Not sure if he bets this big with AX.

So for value he's got:

QT - 4 combos, but mostly just the 2 of QTss or QThh. Does he do this with all his QT combos, hoping we check back most turns?
33 - 3 combos.
99 - maybe 1 combo.

Maybe he's got some AJ or A9hh/A3hh, but those combos seem less likely.

I also somewhat wonder if he's just a pre-flop chart wizard, who believes he has way more Jx and J9 in his range, so he can liberally x/r the flop when we range-bet, and now he has too many weak hands that get to the river, that have to bluff.

It's pretty close, but I'd lean towards folding, I think. I don't hate calling, but I'm expecting to be shown QT or 99/33 more often than not.


Yeah, the only value combos that make sense here are QTss/QThh, unless V was going for the double XR with 99, 33, J9 (hoping you might stab on the A turn). I mean, you wouldn't think that Axss would bet river for value. Would also expect V to give up with a lot of bluffs on the AK runout and after checking turn. Generally, I'm folding to a 90% sizing on a B-X-B line if I can't find many bluffs, but XR-X-B isn't the same. Might be looking for some live tells. Did V continue to look at his screen during the hand and then make eye-contact on the river at some stage, for instance?


Pretty standard call. As played, would be tempted to mix in a few 3! on flop, and bet the turn sometimes. Agree that villain should be betting turn for value with sets, A3, AJ.

I'm guessing description of 'robotic pro' doesn't really hold up. But presumably villain can still have j9 and ax Hero beats, and if he is a pro should have bluffs.


Thanks, everyone, for the feedback.

In retrospect, the "robotic pro" was most likely in town for the tournament that ran the day after this hand was played. Personally, I was quite impressed by the efficiency he had in handling the chips and cards, as well as his ability to manage social interactions with the absolute minimum of investment.

On to the hand:
I feel that pre and flop are quite standard, so there’s not much to consider besides which combos we would 3-bet with here. Personally, I think 99 and JJ are the only hands I’d consider clear-cut 3-bets given the depth. If we need to mix in other hands, I’d rather 3-bet/bluff QT/KQ without the FD, since with the FD we profit so much from playability IP OTT.

Turn:
The robotic reg checked very nonchalantly. The dealer wasn’t paying attention (was dealing with something involving a bystander or so), so the reg had to directly tell me that he checked. Definitely the first time he did that since he came to the table 2 hours ago. I don’t see much value in betting here with our exact hand. I would bet sets, J9+, targeting A-high FDs.

River:
I clicked call, as this line didn’t make much sense to me. My thought process: he has two nut combos he could play this way (QThh, QTss), but he doesn’t represent sets or two pairs with the turn line.

Result: He had JJ. NH, sir.


Strange line with JJ specifically, but not for value overall. I don't think I'd ever find this line with JJ, but I could with 99, 33, and QTs, and occasionally maybe AKo if for some reason I decided not to 3B pre.


Played fine by both players, for my money.

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