Couple hands from 1/3 vs same loose villain.
Villain is involved in every other pot. He has called with overcards in multiway pots. He recently opened to 10, got a caller, got 3bet to 60, and showed down with T8o at the river. We've seen him open/call with hands like 35o, j8o, 56o. We have not seen him bluff.
Hero is trying to play TAG, hasn't bluffed or stabbed at multiway pots that went to showdown revealing hero's holdings.
Hand 1:
Hero has A♣K♣ in the SB effective $400.
Villain in EP opens to $10.
Co calls $10.
Hero raises to $60.
Villain calls.
Co folds.
Flop is J74r no clubs.
Hero bets half pot ish (can't remember exactly $50 or $60).
Villain calls.
Turn is another J.
Hero?
Spoiler
Hero checks intending to fold. Hero is trying to play straightforward and just let it go when he misses. Villain bets an unexpectedly small $50. Hero calls miscalculating his odds to hit one of his 6 outs but hopes to get paid on the river.
River is a low brick (Hero is working on remembering hands better). Hero checks. Villain bets $115. Hero folds.
In hindsight, if I was willing to call a small bet of $50 (which I wasn't expecting to see), I should have just bet again on the turn. I feel like I showed weakness and villain pounced. But on the other hand, I don't want to be spewing with AK in 3bet pots when I miss. I tell myself that villain could also be ahead here given what he defended the last 3bet we saw with.
Hand 2:
My plan against this villain is to make a hand and let him blast into me.
Hero has K♣Q♥ on the button.
Same villain opens to $10 from EP.
HJ calls $10.
Hero calls $10.
Flop comes Q99r.
Villain bets $20.
HJ folds.
Hero calls $20.
Turn is 5.
Villain bets $35.
Hero calls $35.
River is a 3.
Villain bets $100.
Hero?
We make TPGK on the flop and villain blasts away as usual. Though we haven't been shown a bluff, given his 50% vpip, I am expecting/hoping/praying to see a weaker pair/weaker kicker, a missed draw or air.
Spoiler
Hero calls.
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hand 1 on the flop 1/2 pot bet makes no sense either 1/4-1/3 pot bet OTF or check. if you havent seen him bluff then i like c/f flop because you cant barrel many turns.
hand 2 is a must 3b pre. as played id fold the river.
Hand 2, against this villain , I think we have to call river
I feel like he would go bigger on flop & turn w/ bigger value hands anyways
So feels like this is air or a weaker king
Although you mentioned villain hasn't bluff a hand yet. Would you say he's very passive? He likes to check/call? You say he goes to showdown with all those hands but you don't remember how they were played?
Hand 1 - If villain is very very passive, just check and give up on flop. As played on the turn, if villain again if he's very very very passive, check and give up. However, against most villains, I'd check/call or even check/raise the turn. lol Most villain betting range on the turn is Jx and air. What air do they have? random 89, 9t, 56 type hand. Most people with showdown value just check back the turn.
Hand2 - We are never calling with KQo in btn. This is 3bet or fold. Probably fold if villain is very very very passive, his opening range might have you dominated if he's very passive. 3betting is good vs those loose pfr.
As played we are probably folding the turn. River is a snap fold.
So tbh, I don't know what to say. Most villain are either passive or aggro. Identify the player type then create a strategy for this specific player type.
hand 1 on the flop 1/2 pot bet makes no sense either 1/4-1/3 pot bet OTF or check. if you havent seen him bluff then i like c/f flop because you cant barrel many turns.
hand 2 is a must 3b pre. as played id fold the river.
What do you mean by 1/2 pot makes no sense? How can I learn to understand what bet sizing does make sense? Is 1/4-1/3 something a solver tells you to do? I legit have no idea where to find information about this.
Although you mentioned villain hasn't bluff a hand yet. Would you say he's very passive? He likes to check/call? You say he goes to showdown with all those hands but you don't remember how they were played? Hand 1 - If villain is very very passive, just check and give up on flop. As played on the turn, if villain again if he's very very very passive, check and give up. Ho
Villain is aggressive when he has initiative and has been very sticky without initiative. Has called 3 streets with mid/bottom pair. The runouts have been very kind to him. With that in mind, I feel gross folding TPGK... is that mostly because the board is paired?
Villain is aggressive when he has initiative and has been very sticky without initiative. Has called 3 streets with mid/bottom pair. The runouts have been very kind to him. With that in mind, I feel gross folding TPGK... is that mostly because the board is paired?
Villain range is somewhat polarized, it doesn't matter what hand you have unless you have 9x or better.
Villain is either bluffing with pure air, semi bluffing with like tj type hand, then the value portion becomes 9x, overpairs, AQ type hands.
At the end of the day, all you have a bluff catcher.
You mentioned 50% vpip, but vpip doesn't mean pfr, he open raised the hand preflop. People who have super high vpip most likely have a very very low pfr unless he's a maniac. Which means his opening range is very tight, EP position is even tighter.
On a paired board 99Qr, when you call you're repping 9x, Qx, some pairs like tt/jj, and some TJ/KJ type hand. When he barrels the 2nd/3rd time, he literally valuebetting your range. If he's uber aggro/crazy, yea he can have bluffs like TJ/KJ/Ax/random bluffs, but odds are he's not.
Imho, I rather you bluff catch on hand1 than hand2. Because hand1, his range is way way wider.
