3B pot OOP
3B pot OOP

3B pot OOP

Live £1 / £1

Co open £7 (£300
Hero £35 with AcAs from SB (Covers)

I have not see this player open very much, but he also has not played for long

10s7c6c (£71)
Hero checks
CO Checks

Turn Qd (£71)
Hero bets £30
CO calls

River 9h (£131)
Hero check or bet, and if check, how to respond to a bet from V?

06 April 2025 at 10:19 AM
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assuming you have whiffed Ax hands in your range here for balance, the flop check is fine

bigger on the turn

check and probably fold river.


Flop is a range check, turn is fine though could size up. River check fold unless he bets tiny. He should be checking a lot of his showdown value, specifically Qx.


by OmahaDonk m

Flop is a range check, turn is fine though could size up. River check fold unless he bets tiny. He should be checking a lot of his showdown value, specifically Qx.


It can be a range check in a SRP. In a 3-bet pot, I'm range betting 1/4-1/3 flop.


I can go either way on the flop, but I usually bet. Turn is OK, but I go bigger. River might check/call. Not sure how else you get value, and it would suck to have to bet/fold if this guy has a bluff in him.


by Always Fondling m

It can be a range check in a SRP. In a 3-bet pot, I'm range betting 1/4-1/3 flop.

Yeah I do prefer a check as we can get put in a tough spot if were raised and also we have a lot of AQ AK etc which have completely missed which im guessing were just checking


Grunch:

PRE - I love the 5x sizing on the 3B when OOP.

FLOP - Checking from OOP when HU as the PFR is okay, and what I usually do. But I'd like it better if the flop was less connected, with at least one higher card that we might conceivably be worried about.

Like, if the board is ace-high and we have JJ, that sucks. Here, there isn't too much to be worried about on this board, in a 3BP.

I think I'd just c-bet for 1/3 pot. We want to start building the pot now, when we likely have the best hand, before the board gets scary. We can just go bet-bet-bet on a lot of run-outs, and expect to get called by all of V's 1P hands that are putting us on AK.

TURN - When the flop checks through, I'd size up on the turn, and bet at least full pot, if not over-bet 1.5x pot.

When V opens from the CO, and calls our 3B pre, but then checks the flop, he's likely to have a lot of Broadway combos, like KQ/QJ, that will like this card, and won't want to fold.

He may also have some Tx in his range, but didn't feel confident betting flop, possibly fearing a check-raise. He could also have picked up a draw with a hand like KJ or J9.

RIVER - I'd bet around 2/3 pot, targeting all V's 1P holdings. Fold if he raises.

Our hand isn't strong enough to check-raise, and it's a disaster if V just checks back with a hand that would have called, or bets some amount less than what we would have bet.


by RakkiOtoko m

Yeah I do prefer a check as we can get put in a tough spot if were raised and also we have a lot of AQ AK etc which have completely missed which im guessing were just checking

How is it a tough spot if you bet 1/4-1/2 pot and get raised, holding an over-pair? Say you bet $20, and V makes it $60. Are we not deep enough to call, and play some poker on later streets, especially when we have the Ac in our hand, and two clubs on board?

So what if you'd check AK/AQ? How often are you 3B'ing those hands out of the SB? Probably not 100% of the time. It's 1/1. There's no need to be balanced here.

The only reason to check is if we think V is going to stab at the pot a lot. If this were a SRP, I'd think the likelihood is high. But we 3B pre (to a large 5x sizing), so V is less likely to stab here. Also pretty unlikely V raises us with worse for value, or as a bluff, in a 3BP.


River is mostly a xc va normal sizing, and as villain increases size can start finding more folds.

Block bet isn't awful either.


by docvail m

Grunch:PRE - I love the 5x sizing on the 3B when OOP. FLOP - Checking from OOP when HU as the PFR is okay, and what I usually do. But I'd like it better if the flop was less connected, with at least one higher card that we might conceivably be worried about. Like, if the board is ace-high and we have JJ, that sucks. Here, there isn't too much to be worried about on this board,

Yeah ive noticed in quite a lot of hands my sizing is been terrible. think that is one of my main problems

I was more trying to pot control on the flop but guess there is a lot of bad turns we can get

I agree my turn sizing is not good should be much bigger seems a common theme from a lot of my hands


by docvail m

How is it a tough spot if you bet 1/4-1/2 pot and get raised, holding an over-pair? Say you bet $20, and V makes it $60. Are we not deep enough to call, and play some poker on later streets, especially when we have the Ac in our hand, and two clubs on board?So what if you'd check AK/AQ? How often are you 3B'ing those hands out of the SB? Probably not 100% of the time. It's 1/1.

Maybe just a difference in games. but I would imagine if I bet and get raised on that board my the majority of players I would be beat or vs a big draw here

I would probably 3B AK and AQ 100% vs Co open, Would this be a mistake?


by RakkiOtoko m

Maybe just a difference in games. but I would imagine if I bet and get raised on that board my the majority of players I would be beat or vs a big draw here

I would probably 3B AK and AQ 100% vs Co open, Would this be a mistake?

Hypothetically, if you want to 3B with AK/AQ 100% of the time in this spot, it's probably fine. But few players do anything 100% of the time in any spot. We can always find a reason to deviate. For instance, you might not 3B here, simply the because you may be a player who doesn't 3B much, or won't 3B AK/AQ, only pairs. Or maybe you opt not to 3B because you perceive V is opening a tighter range.

As for AA, your actual hand, you don't need to worry about what you'd do with AK/AQ if you got raised here. You can fold AK/AQ and call with AA and not worry about being unbalanced and exploitable. You have the Ac in your hand and can call across a lot of turns, assuming V were to even raise your flop bet, and continue to barrel. Your range on this flop is hopefully more than just AA/AK/AQ.


Flop check is fine, bet is fine, but i got a feeling you did it because youre too passive, whereas id be checking and considering a check raise.

ott once he checks he has a lot of air thats folding, and shitty draws that you dont mind folding, and his calling range is gonna be Qx which is never folding to a bet, so im potting it or more and expecting lots of folds.

Otr this is a clear bet, i cant even imagine what kind of MUBS has you thinking c/b/c is good on this line. If he raises you probably fold vs most Vs but if he does bet it means he has something weird like KJ that got there cuz you ****ed up so bad ott.


by Tomark m

Flop check is fine, bet is fine, but i got a feeling you did it because youre too passive, whereas id be checking and considering a check raise.ott once he checks he has a lot of air thats folding, and shitty draws that you dont mind folding, and his calling range is gonna be Qx which is never folding to a bet, so im potting it or more and expecting lots of folds. Otr this is a

Aren't you expecting some whiffed club draws (despite H holding Ac) to stab big at this? Plus, they've 2x pot or so in their stack...the stab can be big. Especially on a river completing some potential straights. We really need more reads on our V. H bet <1/2 on a Q turn, and been kind of passive. I expect a bluffy V to start really pushing on this kind of river card.

I also totally agree with your point on why H checked flop here. Check..maybe, but then bigger bet this Q turn. We've already done our check one street with an OP bit. Time to get some money. If we don't think this V bets river, sure, bet something valuey.

Do we think this V has bluff-raise river in them?


by Nh,gg. m

Aren't you expecting some whiffed club draws (despite H holding Ac) to stab big at this? Plus, they've 2x pot or so in their stack...the stab can be big. Especially on a river completing some potential straights. We really need more reads on our V. H bet <1/2 on a Q turn, and been kind of passive. I expect a bluffy V to start really pushing on this kind of river card.I als

Yeah I think my turn sizing is pretty bad here.

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