What do you do here?
What do you do here?

What do you do here?

1/3, mgmnh in Oxen Hill, MD.

Hero has KJ hh in the CO. MP opens to $15. Hero raises to $45. Villain calls on the button. Folds back to MP who folds. Heads up to the flop. Effective at about $1,000. Hero has villain covered by about $500. ($1,500 total)

90 in the pot. QhQc9d, 1 heart.

Hero leads for 50. Villain calls.

190 in the pot. Turn is a 2h. QhQ9, 2h. Four to the flush.

Hero leads for 150. Villain calls.

Pot is about 475 after rake on the river. River is a blank. Off suit 5.

How are we playing this river?

Villain has about 800 behind at this point.

14 April 2025 at 02:04 AM
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The hand feels a bit overplayed. While preflop is fine (although reads would've been helpful), the flop bet is way too chunky on this paired board, especially since AQs/KQs are going to show up in the BTN's hand a lot.

Although you picked up equity on the turn, I don't think the BTN is ever folding for a normal sized bet, so I'd probably check and hope we're not going to face a large bet.


PRE - could be ok, or you could be OOL depending on how tight MP is opening.

FLOP - HU and OOP, I'm mostly just checking range, not c-betting. No real reason to c-bet here.

If you must c-bet, I'd go smaller, like 1/3 pot, or maybe even a little less.

TURN - nice that we pick up the flush draw, but I think if we're going to bet, we should bet small, like half pot, to cap V's range.

RIVER - I don't know what to do here because I wouldn't get here this way. V should have folded out a lot of his weakest stuff by now. I hate to check with K-high, but I also hate to bet again when V looks like he has a hand he likes. If he was calling us the whole way with JT, we win if he checks back. Think I just give up and check now.

Agree with AF, this hand seems over-played.


MP and the rest of the table were pretty soft. I was in seat 3 and the only two people that really seemed like they knew what they were doing were seat 4 and 7.

The goal with the 3’ pre was squeeze to get the button and blinds out and go HU against MP who I was beating all game.

Button in this scenario (seat 4) was pretty solid but I only saw him bluff and get called once. He’s been super tight for most of the game but I think he was spite calling me on this flop and turn because I had been dominating the table. I had been very active up to this point and I honestly felt like him calling with aces and kings and slow playing was a real possibility.


I mean....these additional details / reads could be valuable insights, but only insofar as they only make me want to bet even less than I did before.

Completely read-less, I don't like this spot. When an opponent cold-calls a 3B, it really compresses their range a ton. It's basically low-to-middling pairs (22-TT) looking to set-mine, and a bunch of Broadway combos. This flop absolutely smashes the 99 and QX portion of that range. The only thing our hand really has going for it is that it blocks some combos of KQ and QJ.

Even before the flop, I'd be wondering WTF the BTN is doing cold-calling the 3B. On the flop, I'm not loving the board texture, and hating it when he calls our >1/2 pot c-bet.

Like, he really shouldn't have too much JT in his range to start with, and he shouldn't be too enthusiastic about continuing with JT when the board is paired. When the BDFD comes in on the turn, he should be even less enthusiastic about drawing to a straight, and yet he's calling chunky flop and turn bets like he just doesn't care.

I'd be surprised if he shows up with AA/KK here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's got some QX combo, possibly as strong as AQ/KQ, or just 99, or Q9, if he thinks you're really FOS pre, and is going out of his way to keep you honest / punish you.


Well I wasn’t putting him on Q9 because with MP left to act it didn’t fit his style or at least what I imagined his range to include.

He ended up betting 100 on the river after I checked it to him. About 500 in the pot with 700 left in his stack give or take. 600 if you include his bet. What would you do there?


Call or fold. It's pretty close.


Any reads on this player besides you don't put him on Q9? Could he have AQ, KQ, QJ, QT?

Not sure I bet the flop, but if I do, I check the turn. If I bet turn, I go smaller. Zero reason to go so big -- and I'd never do that if I had a Q or KK/AA.

I probably fold river. We can't beat an A. Maybe call for information since you've already paid for it? No way am I raising.


Turns out I snap all in’d putting his entire remaining stack at risk. The size of his bet felt like a sizing tell based on what I had seen up to that point and that if he had AQ or 99 he’d bet larger realizing he can’t be beat. I already discounted the fact he had Q9 based on preflop action.

Looking back, if he had QQ that would be the only reason to bet small because he would figure I’m not gonna call anything larger without one.

What do you think he did based on that read?

Edit: no reason to draw this out, he folded kings


No idea. At this point, it doesn't matter what we think he had. Sorry, but you are kind of wasting our time by not putting all of that info in the OP. It changes everything.


Was just taking it one step at a time to see how I was supposed to process this. What you guys were saying about how he’s calling chunky raises makes it less likely he doesn’t have a made hand or that he’s drawing to the straight. The other person that said I had blockers to hands I might be trying to fold out (the qk and qj) made a good point.

The way I played it though with the all in to his weak bet forced him to have three specific hands based on the way typical 1/3 people play. AQ, QQ, and 99. Those are the only hands he’d call with because I already eliminated Q9 from his range. Any other unpaired hand or JJ is an auto fold. I didn’t think calling was the right play if he was trying to value AK because I even lose to that too.

The other bonus is I could even get him to fold KK and AA which is what he ended up doing. He folded KK


You need to give your full reads in the OP. You cannot say, this is the hand, what would you do, and then many posts later give us your read on the player. I doesn't work that way. You are at the table -- we need your read, not our guesses.

V is terrible -- glad it worked.


I was willing to give up the hand and check fold to a reasonably sized bet (2-300. Definitely 400), but as soon as I saw that weak bet on the river I couldnt help myself and shipped it. I just had the feeling he was weak or didn’t have the queen.

Anyway. Thanks for the conversation


I think checking turn is Ideal here - pushing 3 streets with paired flop given you both have wider ranges on this run out is better as an overall Strat for your range as well as allows you opportunity to establish a bet check bet line for the future.

If villain bets turn I’d advocate calling majority of sizes considering stack depth and potential to extract enough to make it profitable.

If villain checks behind on turn leading for 75% pot or more is ideal. Given that most value hands shouldn’t check behind turn here outside of QQ and some QX combos where X is a trash kicker. But given their range has so much more than just QX combos and we block some QJ combos and KQ combos, I still think leading river when they check behind turn is ideal. I’d fold to a raise on the river tho.

I guess to further qualify I wouldn’t bet greater than 1.5 pot on river and I’d only bet 1.5x at a very low frequency.

Villain has nut advantage with more Qx than you I believe so we need to temper our frequency of overbets

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